Lets Talk d-series

[hitoriko]

Because sub-frame braces aren't a waste of time at all.

im going to assume you read the entire post.

my point is simple - 2k coilovers, will not yeld the same performance gain IF the rest of teh suspension isn't up to the task to suit. you get more from doing all the other suspension pieces and runing just a spring & shock combo and doing the rest

and if you think different thats fine, but from my experance with my 180sx this is my opinion

[mugen_ctr]

thats it.... dont relie on one componet of the car, u need everything else to work with it to make a whole package
Theres no denying that spring an shock combo is jus as effective as coilovers, but again, personal preference
2k can get you pretty good coilovers right there, lol, most owners, if they had to play with 2k, i think most would go coilovers straight out

[~Sp33~]

my point is simple - 2k coilovers, will not yeld the same performance gain IF the rest of teh suspension isn't up to the task to suit.

Right-o.

Theres no denying...

Right-o.

[hitoriko]

Sp33 - im not going to start an arguement over this because you obviously dont have a clue.

There's no reason why a spring/shock combo will ride any better than a set of coilovers. Coilovers should ride better because the spring and shock damper settings are properly mated. My Tiens have 32 damper adjustment settings.

Going off this statement then if all his bushes in his car are stuffed and cracked, he should spend 2000 buy coilovers and everything will be fine?

Right-O

[newpaddy3]

Guys who cares, stop being keyboard warriors, you both have different oppinions with different experiences.

Don't try and convince anyone over the internet, things can be taken out of context.

Just try to be helpful and leave it at that.

[~Sp33~]

Sp33 - im not going to start an arguement over this because you obviously dont have a clue.



Going off this statement then if all his bushes in his car are stuffed and cracked, he should spend 2000 buy coilovers and everything will be fine?

Right-O

If the bushings are all stuffed and cracked then the car shouldn't legally be on the road.

It's like saying, you're better off putting oil in the engine than spending hundreds of dollars buying an intake and exhaust.

Well duh. Performance modifications =/= keeping your car properly serviced.

[hitoriko]

misinformation is not helpful - which is what im getting at newpaddy. nothing in his posts has been informative at all

And its nothing like saying that

you're better off putting oil in the engine than spending hundreds of dollars buying an intake and exhaust.

Getting a set of coilovers doesn't mean your car will handle better. If anything it will handle and feel worse if all other parts of the suspension system aren't working together. Most people choose coilovers because they can say "i have coilovers"

But the choice is as always up to the individual and lets leave it at that - but i would like to know what you decide and the before/after and thoughts etc...

Hito

[~Sp33~]

misinformation is not helpful

Miss information? I haven't said anything that isn't truth. I even went back and double checked the last few pages. Feel free to point it out so that i can clarify if you have miss interpreted my information.

Getting a set of coilovers doesn't mean your car will handle better. If anything it will handle and feel worse if all other parts of the suspension system aren't working together.

Ha, are you really debating on whether a set of coilovers are going to make your car handle better.

Most people choose coilovers because they can say "i have coilovers"

Funny enough, i think that most people who buy coilovers to say "i have coilovers" are probably the same people who probably can't tell the difference between a spring/shock combo and 2k worth of coilover.

[newpaddy3]

Getting a set of coilovers doesn't mean your car will handle better. If anything it will handle and feel worse if all other parts of the suspension system aren't working together.

I'm going to have to side with Sp33. If you buy coilovers of course your car will perform better. However if you want to increase upon that you can modify with sway bars ect, ect.

[hitoriko]

Ha, are you really debating on whether a set of coilovers are going to make your car handle better..

Yes, there isn't any point spending $2000 on coilovers if the rest of the suspension isn't up to the task, otherwise you way aswell throw a turbo on your engine with no intercooler and standard exhaust because you'll get the same result, thats to say, if all pieces of the system arent working together and setup correctly your not going to reap the full benefit and you'll only make more problems for yourself later.

What your saying is (at least from what you've stated), coilovers = performance. Its not that simple, everything in the suspension plays a part, im not saying that your completely wrong, im just saying that more details are needed about his setup. IE if he has upgraded the bushes, maybe a better set of LCAs, Swaybars etc.. then yes coilovers will be a great idea, provided the prep work is there for them. theres far better ways to improve your setup then just throwing coilovers in.

[dougie_504]

Yes, there isn't any point spending $2000 on coilovers if the rest of the suspension isn't up to the task, otherwise you way aswell throw a turbo on your engine with no intercooler and standard exhaust because you'll get the same result, thats to say, if all pieces of the system arent working together and setup correctly your not going to reap the full benefit and you'll only make more problems for yourself later.

What your saying is (at least from what you've stated), coilovers = performance. Its not that simple, everything in the suspension plays a part, im not saying that your completely wrong, im just saying that more details are needed about his setup. IE if he has upgraded the bushes, maybe a better set of LCAs, Swaybars etc.. then yes coilovers will be a great idea, provided the prep work is there for them. theres far better ways to improve your setup then just throwing coilovers in.

I get what you're saying now I think.

You recommend that he get sway bars/strut braces etc first so maximise the effect of his coilovers because it's cheaper to do them first and they're very important to achieve the best potential from your sussy setup?

[EK1.6LCIV]

replace rear trailing arm bushes, inspect from lca bushes, buy decent coilovers/shock and spring combo, rear sway bar/asr kit, nice wet handling road tyres

best money spent, Id rather my koni yellows to my buds jic's that make your arse leave the seat on the same mountain run... lol

edfc love that system, so bloody easy, definitely add fulcrum to fb or something for more info


102.5hp atw is my top hp reading with my d16y8 (perfect curve, no real room for improvement), keen to see higher in oz?