AUDM vs USDM K24 in Euro

[praja6]

+1 for avoiding french cars.I've heard some horror stories.Stay away from them!

I think thats correct, my previous boss's daughter got a Peugeot 207, she always had to spent lot for servicing, once she told me that they charged 500+ something just for changed the right hand side headlight globe. When she asked why its expensive, the dealer told her the globe is a special one for the car.. FInally she got rid of the car and around 6months ago she bought a Civic Type R.

Also BMW is another expensive one, my friend's mom's 07 BMW 5 series needed to change new battery and dealer charged $1200 for it..

This is the main reason i gave up idea buying BMW 3 seris and was tossing between lexus IS250 and Euro, i could not justify paying 57K driveaway for brand new IS250 for a Toyoda based and ended up with accord Euro.

[Dr P]

I love my french car.

Renault Megane Sport....its unique in its attitude

[Fredoops]

I think the Skoda Superb is butt ugly,and a very poor seller.
I would rather have a Passat,but IMHO,the Euro is still better,as has the best buld quality,excellent reliability,great resale,and looks HOT.
The curse of all modern VWs is that they seem to be plagued by rattles and squeeks,which would drive me insane.

And avoid French cars,they are horrific to own and maintain.

Beauty is to the eyes of the beholder, I personally think a Black Superb with extra dark tint = gangster.

After owning a CL9... Although it gave me no trouble, the dealer experience had been sub-par at the best.

I don't believe this whole "reputation" thing anymore, I mean... A Toyota has got a reliable reputation... then it kills you because the brake or gas fails. Skoda had a horrid eastern European reputation, then the Germans took over.

At least with VW dealers I'll know they'll be using VW extended service oil... Not Castrol GTX or some other cheap s*** that comes in a barrel.

Part prices from Honda Australia are matching European cars, thank god for eBay...

The new VW 7spd DSG uses 1.7 ltr of DSG oil, compares to the 7ltr of the old 6spd.

AS to the servicing cost thingy below are some interesting data from carservice.com.au, I took the high end of cost spectrum.

I love my french car.

Renault Megane Sport....its unique in its attitude

The new Megane Sport Cup... in yellow... thats not a car... thats an orgasm.

[natnat]

I love my french car.

Renault Megane Sport....its unique in its attitude

here is a review of Renault Megane RS250 Trophee by someone who I think is very well respected on VW forums, he's written many useful and technically serious postings.

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112...45833-121.html

".....Renault Megane RS250:
The true driver’s hot-hatch. Delivers fun in spades and definitely the pick for a back road blast or mountain climb. Despite the rudimentary chassis design, the tuning of the chassis is second to none and the LSD coupled with Revo-knuckle is a revelation for lifting the game in outright fwd grip and absence of torque steer. ......."

[natnat]

I think the Skoda Superb is butt ugly,and a very poor seller....

your opinion is obviously in opposite of Top Gear and other UK magazine writers..

http://www.caradvice.com.au/57886/sk...r-of-the-year/

http://www.skoda.com.au/skodaaustralia/awards.aspx

[CU2 Euro 09]

Doesn't really matter about the Skoda, it's doesn't look bad but IMO looks like it's in the same market segment as the Honda Accord (old persons segment), not the Euro. So if that's your type of thing go and get one. Doesn't look as good as the CU2.

[Type R Positive]

your opinion is obviously in opposite of Top Gear and other UK magazine writers..

http://www.caradvice.com.au/57886/sk...r-of-the-year/

http://www.skoda.com.au/skodaaustralia/awards.aspx

But in the real world, skoda is crap. Very poor resale, very unknown brand.

[Type R Positive]

At least with VW dealers I'll know they'll be using VW extended service oil... Not Castrol GTX or some other cheap s*** that comes in a barrel.

don't kid yourself. I test oil at work, as long as it's still got anti-oxidants, the oil is good.

I'll be doing a write up soon when I get some more recip engine testing sample tubes in. I want to find out how good this castrol edge 5w30 is after 10k kms. Not sure where you live, but the company who supplies our equipment, have an office and lab in Sydney and Perth.

[tony1234]

But in the real world, skoda is crap. Very poor resale, very unknown brand.

True.Might be a good car and a nice drive but if retained value is shit then it's not a good buy.

[Type R Positive]

True.Might be a good car and a nice drive but if retained value is shit then it's not a good buy.

Its like a Saab. I'm sure it's a nice car, but no way in the world would you own one!

[Fredoops]

don't kid yourself. I test oil at work, as long as it's still got anti-oxidants, the oil is good.

I'll be doing a write up soon when I get some more recip engine testing sample tubes in. I want to find out how good this castrol edge 5w30 is after 10k kms. Not sure where you live, but the company who supplies our equipment, have an office and lab in Sydney and Perth.

It's not about the oil mate, it's about the dealer post-sale experience, its shocking, they put up advertising in the damn service rooms about "Genuine HONDA" parts and charge you mercilessly... yet in the workshop they don't even use the "Genuine Honda" parts they talk to death and charge you to death about.

also I'm in Brisbane, I'd love to send you some samples for a test, but I've just got car serviced with Mobil one EP a mth ago, so it dont need another oil change for 15k or so.
- I am in your camp about the Castrol Edge... I Just dont trust Castrol. But thats just me.

About the oils, it's not all about the oxidation. It's the other additives in the oil and how it reacts to the engine and engine wear.
In fact heres the API testing results form 2008.
http://ultimatelubes.com/API-Compara...il-Testing.php
Mobil One faired pretty well considering the cost of Amsoil.

Its like a Saab. I'm sure it's a nice car, but no way in the world would you own one!

People said that about Japanese cars 30 years ago, and Korean cars 5 years ago.
Europeans said that about Kia 10 years ago, and it's now surpassing Peugeot and Citroen in the small car segment.

But in the real world, skoda is crap. Very poor resale, very unknown brand.

Not meant to be rude and I certainly don't want to get into an argument. but the published data disagrees.
Wheelsmag Goldstar rating back in 2009 listed Octavia having retain resale of 67.6%, Roomster retain resale of 67.4% It's not what any reasonable person would describe as "very poor".

Besides, my car's registered under a business name, I don't give a damn about resale, less resale = more tax credit.

[Type R Positive]

It's not about the oil mate, it's about the dealer post-sale experience, its shocking, they put up advertising in the damn service rooms about "Genuine HONDA" parts and charge you mercilessly... yet in the workshop they don't even use the "Genuine Honda" parts they talk to death and charge you to death about.

also I'm in Brisbane, I'd love to send you some samples for a test, but I've just got car serviced with Mobil one EP a mth ago, so it dont need another oil change for 15k or so.
- I am in your camp about the Castrol Edge... I Just dont trust Castrol. But thats just me.

I trust castrol, just want to see how spent the oil really is after 10k kms. Some of the best turbine oil we got is Mobil, but I don't want to pay twice the price for something when I don't have to.

I know what you mean about Honda servicing, I get my car serviced at K-Mart lol! It's not just Honda, they are all shocking.

About the oils, it's not all about the oxidation. It's the other additives in the oil and how it reacts to the engine and engine wear.
In fact heres the API testing results form 2008.
http://ultimatelubes.com/API-Compara...il-Testing.php
Mobil One faired pretty well considering the cost of Amsoil.

It might suprise you, but yes it is. With anti-oxidants, we measure the Amines and Phenols. When these are gone, your oil is too. They do everything from preventing bearing corrosion, free redical elimination, peroxide elimination, stop sludge and varnish, and corrosion protection. Everything is relative to these two things. Everything! It is a 17 second $15 test to measure this, as opposed to a $500 6 week turn around to measure everything else to get the same answer. I'll explain more on the chemistry side of things when I get my own oil testing sorted.

Not meant to be rude and I certainly don't want to get into an argument. but the published data disagrees.
Wheelsmag Goldstar rating back in 2009 listed Octavia having retain resale of 67.6%, Roomster retain resale of 67.4% It's not what any reasonable person would describe as "very poor".

Besides, my car's registered under a business name, I don't give a damn about resale, less resale = more tax credit.

LOL! Take a look on carpoint. New Octiva DSG's are going for over $40k. Second hand '09 models are going for $22k. As I said, POOR!

Leyland P76 won COTY too.....