Tach it up, tach it up, buddy gonna shut you down

[NickPieMan]

Hi hows it going, I'm new to this forum

I've got a classy 93 Accord. Last week we had a little rainstorm here in Melbourne and I accidentally drove my car into an invisible lake. Water was sucked in through the air filter and now 'I need a new engine' according to my mechanic. He did a compression test whatever that is and there was next to nothing in the four cylenders.

Lucky for me I have access to another car

So seing as how I need a new engine, I figure it's also time to upgrade the interior, install a nice sound system, maybe put in a more powerful engine, turbo charge it or something. Not that she was slow to begin with! She hasn't been beaten at the traffic lights.

So starting at the start, I hope someone can tell me exactly what a compression test is? And why a head gasket (which is one of the things I have blown) is so expensive to fix?

[Indie]

Hi. I recently drove my '93 Accord which is worth next to nothing into an 'invisible' lake, so now I'm going to spend money on an interior, a sound system, a more powerful engine and a super turbo-charger or something. She already kills all the other people who drag me at the lights. They're definitely racing me. Unluckily for the owner, I have access to their car. I hope an invisible kangaroo doesn't hop in front of it!

So starting at the start, and beginning at the beginning, can somebody tell me how cars work? Because I thought they could float, but it turns out they can't. Now it turns out they have more parts than an 'engine' and a stereo. And can somebody tell me why it's such a stupid idea to waste so much money on a shitty old car, spending more than it's worth on ridiculous 'upgrades', rather than buying a new car? Because I am an idiot.

Thanks!

[mugen_ctr]

if u have zero idea as to cars, u got a lot of reading to do, an NOW!, wiki, google....

My opinion, go buy another car, an dont touch it, as it seems you have not a single drop of knowledge as to modding cars, let alone any information as to the workings of a car

heres a thought, give a mechanic 10k an see what he does with ur car, he will either dump in a old engine an say its new, an scam u into 10k, or he will be a good mechanic an use that 10k to build a much nicer, more powerful accord as u said.... choice is ur buddy

[NickPieMan]

Thats why I'm here to learn what I can

I am not buying a new car, I like the one I have now. I would like it even more if it worked.

My mechanic said that to get a new engine installed it would cost me five thousand. Like you said though is he being honest or not?? I dont know

That is why I want to know exactly wtf is wrong with my car and why it needs a new engine to fix it.

Now lets try again - what is a compression test?

[V8KLLR]

By the sounds of it, you have hydraulic locked you car, which led to some serious internal damage. Hydraulic lock is when water has entered your combustion chamber, and created excessive pressure because water does not combust like air and fuel. So with all that back pressure something had to give. A compression test is checking how much compression there is in the combustion chamber and the piston when it is at the bottom of its stroke.
Most engines should have 140 to 160 lbs. of cranking compression with no more than 10% difference between any of the cylinders.

Low compression in one cylinder usually indicates a bad exhaust valve. Low compression in two adjacent cylinders typically means you have a bad head gasket. Low compression in all cylinders would tell you the rings and cylinders are worn and the engine needs to be overhauled. Picture a cylinder and its combustion chamber with the piston at the bottom of its stroke containing 1000 cc of air (900 cc in the cylinder plus 100 cc in the combustion chamber). When the piston has moved up to the top of its stroke inside the cylinder, and the remaining volume inside the head or combustion chamber has been reduced to 100 cc, then the compression ratio would be proportionally described as 1000:100, or with fractional reduction, a 10:1 compression ratio.

Alot of dudes will burn you for your thread. Just by the way you wrote it illustrates an image of a kid who doesnt know squat. What those guys fail to realise is that we all started somewhere. And to be honest, there are alot of jerks on Ozhonda, but admist all the trash talking and e-thuggery, you do find some useful information.

Use wikipedia, e-how and howstuffworks for more info.

[Indie]

Oh come now... It's nice to give him advice on what the mechanic said, but somebody needs to illustrate the fact that spending money on this car will never be a good idea. They need to tell him how prohibitively expensive and pointless it would be to put a turbo charger on an almost twenty-year-old FWD sedan. They need to explain that, unless he can do much of the work himself, which he clearly can't, he will certainly be ripped off by almost any mechanic.

Anybody who talks about driving their car into an invisible lake, beating every other car in traffic light drags, and talking about turbocharging a family sedan before asking what a compression test is... They have it coming.

You drove your car into a lake. I assume it isn't comprehensively insured. Unless you can get it done for a decent price, it makes more sense to buy another used Accord than to replace the engine in this one, and try not to drive the next one into a large puddle.
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[e240]

errr.."Hydro Locked"??

...hydraulic locked ....

[V8KLLR]

Yes. That was what the NRMA dude that came and helped me called and Adrian from Toda. Hydro locked is slang i guess but still has the same meaning.
Hydrolock (a shorthand notation for either hydraulic lock or hydrostatic lock) is an abnormal condition of a reciprocating engine in which an incompressible liquid, commonly water, has been introduced into one or more cylinders, causing immobilization or damage. - Wikipedia.

I used to think the same thing too.

[V8KLLR]

Oh come now... It's nice to give him advice on what the mechanic said, but somebody needs to illustrate the fact that spending money on this car will never be a good idea. They need to tell him how prohibitively expensive and pointless it would be to put a turbo charger on an almost twenty-year-old FWD sedan. They need to explain that, unless he can do much of the work himself, which he clearly can't, he will certainly be ripped off by almost any mechanic.

Anybody who talks about driving their car into an invisible lake, beating every other car in traffic light drags, and talking about turbocharging a family sedan before asking what a compression test is... They have it coming.

You drove your car into a lake. I assume it isn't comprehensively insured. Unless you can get it done for a decent price, it makes more sense to buy another used Accord than to replace the engine in this one, and try not to drive the next one into a large puddle.
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"Alot of dudes will burn you for your thread. Just by the way you wrote it illustrates an image of a kid who doesnt know squat. What those guys fail to realise is that we all started somewhere."
Yea I further elaborated on what the mechanic said. Im just saying, he asked this question in the noob forum, cause he obviously is a noob. Bagging him out isnt gonna solve anything, why not asnwer his question and further educate him about how we roll on ozhonda? We are not a bunch of street light warriors. If he doesnt change his act he'll realise there's no place for him here or anywhere really. Thats my opinion.

[jeremydawg]

Hi. I recently drove my '93 Accord which is worth next to nothing into an 'invisible' lake, so now I'm going to spend money on an interior, a sound system, a more powerful engine and a super turbo-charger or something. She already kills all the other people who drag me at the lights. They're definitely racing me. Unluckily for the owner, I have access to their car. I hope an invisible kangaroo doesn't hop in front of it!

So starting at the start, and beginning at the beginning, can somebody tell me how cars work? Because I thought they could float, but it turns out they can't. Now it turns out they have more parts than an 'engine' and a stereo. And can somebody tell me why it's such a stupid idea to waste so much money on a shitty old car, spending more than it's worth on ridiculous 'upgrades', rather than buying a new car? Because I am an idiot.

Thanks!

HAHAHAHAHA, this made me lol so friggin hard, made my day.

How the hell did you drive it into a lake? Get another car man, aint worth fixing it up

V8killer needs to chill, Indie is right he had it coming.

[euromandeluxe]

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[V8KLLR]

HAHAHAHAHA, this made me lol so friggin hard, made my day.

How the hell did you drive it into a lake? Get another car man, aint worth fixing it up

V8killer needs to chill, Indie is right he had it coming.

Yea bro you know what your right, LETS ALL GANG UP ON THE KID AND DISS HIM ON THE NET! instead of helping him or something.

Unsubscribing from this thread now.