AUDM vs USDM K24 in Euro

[natnat]

But in the real world, skoda is crap. Very poor resale, very unknown brand.

Toyota Inova & Isuzu Panther are very unknown in OZ either

[tron07]

Get Honda dealer to quote you service with the Honda FEO ultra syn..... it's $70 extra or so (read: even if you are using your own oil, we'd still charge you for the Castrol Magnetic which we will not be using).

I use my own oil al the time and I am not charged for oil... I am sure many will also tell you the same thing.

Another thing, the price figures in that chart are way more excpensive than what I had been charged by the dealers.

[Type R Positive]

Toyota Inova & Isuzu Panther are very unknown in OZ either

Difference is we don't get those in Australia.....

[Type R Positive]

I think that any car that isn't sold throughout the country is doomed to poor resale. The importer probably thinks it's a "niche" market brand that only certain types in the population would buy. There are other factors at play as well; such as how often the car is in for a warranty claim etc.... On the other hand, they have to develop a market slowly.

Skoda isn't sold in the NT. But the local Honda dealer sells VW. They're becoming more popular but if you talk to the service personnel and ask which brand has the lowest warranty claims, they'll tell you that Honda has by far less claims.

Exactly! Skoda? Skoda who? Lol!

[Fredoops]

I use my own oil al the time and I am not charged for oil... I am sure many will also tell you the same thing.

Another thing, the price figures in that chart are way more excpensive than what I had been charged by the dealers.

I did mention in my post that's the high end of the ranged pricing.

[Fredoops]

Exactly! Skoda? Skoda who? Lol!

Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it's bad.
No one knows Honda/datsun back in 1970's. Does that mean it's "bad"?. It took Japanese cars over 20 years to get rid of those prejudices. Jesus a 1600cc datsun 120y can out run a 4 liter hq.

Besides, anyone who's been in Europe knows skoda, in fact my cousin has a VRS wagon with a YETI on back order.

How many more deathes and mass recalls before people would understand Perception and reputation don't mean s***. The merit is to the car and car itself.

You buy a Toyota because it's reliable and you buy a Honda because it's economical... All those common perceptions are now false

[Type R Positive]

Just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it's bad.

Never said it was bad. Just called Skoda crap for very poor resale value, and very unknown brand.

No one knows Honda/datsun back in 1970's. Does that mean it's "bad"?. It took Japanese cars over 20 years to get rid of those prejudices.

....by forging a reputation for quality and reliability over the decades past. Same thing any manufacturer has to do.

Jesus a 1600cc datsun 120y can out run a 4 liter hq.

120Y's were 1200cc. Mine used to do 80km/h flat out, down a hill, with a tail wind.

How many more deathes and mass recalls before people would understand Perception and reputation don't mean s***. The merit is to the car and car itself.

Perception and reputation don't mean shit hey? You'll find out the hard way when you try and sell your Skoda, just like everyone else trying to now.....

You buy a Toyota because it's reliable and you buy a Honda because it's economical... All those common perceptions are now false

Says who? You?

[praja6]

Personally when ibuy a car, i will go for a known brand and model here in Australia, eventhough the new or recent model her was reliable and popular in other Countries.. I bought Honda accord euro as i know the honda brand and if any case going to sell my car soon or later, i will get more response for buyers than trying to sell a car whieh has been released into Australian market for sometime, eventhough it is popular in other countries.

Have a look, eventhough Toyota got so many recalls, still corolla still sold most car of 4000 last month. This is because people buy corolla will know its not only economical or reliable or cheap, but can also sell it quicker.

[Type R Positive]

Have a look, eventhough Toyota got so many recalls, still corolla still sold most car of 4000 last month. This is because people buy corolla will know its not only economical or reliable or cheap, but can also sell it quicker.

Toyota just don't take any chances, and will recall if any problem is found. Unlike other manufacturers who will do everything not to recall a car.

The bull bar mounts on my Prado were recalled, after it was found that a very few examples had cracked when used over great distances driving on corrugations. Mine were fine, never knew there was an issue untill the dealer rang and told me. They could have just replaced the ones that had an issue case by case (sound familiar?), but perception and reputation is everything.

Toyota have the best manufacturing standards in the world, and sell their business practices to every other industry. All build the perception and reputation of Toyota, something that Fredoops says doesn't mean shit lol!

[praja6]

Toyota have the best manufacturing standards in the world, and sell their business practices to every other industry. All build the perception and reputation of Toyota, something that Fredoops says doesn't mean shit lol![/QUOTE]

YOu are absolutely correct Matt about Toyota standard. I think anywhere in the world most people knows the Toyota brand and will buy with a trust and reliability. However the interier in Toyota, especially when i look at camry or aurion are not the same standard as our Accord Euro..

Just a fact, if any of the toyota car got the ping issue like many of you talk about here in accord euro, i am sure toyota would have already recalled those models voluntarily to fix the issue..

[buddah51au]

The main reason Toyota do so well with sales figures is they offer huge discounts to fleet & rental companies. Overall Corolla is number 1 seller, but if you look into private sales Mazda got the nod last I read.

[SPQR]

Toyota have the best manufacturing standards in the world, and sell their business practices to every other industry. All build the perception and reputation of Toyota, something that Fredoops says doesn't mean shit lol!

If you wish to find out how Toyota got to be that way read up on the American, Dr. W. Edwards Deming at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming

and then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Production_System

A lot of it stems from the American decision after WW2 not to absolutely crush and vanquish Japanese society, but rather rebuild it into a powerful democratic constitutional monarchy and to help its industries and people; who at that time had been reduced to severe poverty and so amongst the lowest living standards of any industrialised nation. The Americans did a similar thing for Germany and Italy after WW2 and each of these three economies rank in the top 7 in the world.