4x100 to 4x114.3

**mugen_ctr** · 24-04-2011 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by babiiiiiiiiiii

Your wheels are balanced hub-centric because that should be the dead center of the wheel. OE wheels are centered by the hub, but because aftermarket wheels are made for a variety of vehicles, the center hole of the wheel is usually larger than your hub. This requires your lugs to center the wheel which even with the correct lugs to match the taper of your wheel, it may not center, thus causing a vibration. Now, when you add spacers, you are increasing the likely hood of a balance problem because they make it more difficult for the wheel to center itself. They also put more stress on the lugs. Longer studs and ET lug nuts help keep it secure, but try holding a book in close to your body then hold it straight out. The further you move the weight away, the heaver it will get.

thats the theory, indeed, but when put into practice, any hard evidence to prove it? pictures tell 1000 words lol

**duckey** · 24-04-2011 03:44 AM

thanks for the replies.

found a set of Advan RG's for 600, only problem is that theyre bloody 114.3

**akusuma** · 24-04-2011 11:00 AM

You would need longer studs as well so your nuts could sit properly as they are used to.
Regardless I think it could be done safely (by using longer studs and correct center bore) but it would still be illegal at least in VIC.

**mikey72** · 24-04-2011 11:04 AM

Why would you need longer wheel nuts? He's not buying spacers, he's buying adaptors.

**niiCk** · 24-04-2011 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by akusuma

You would need longer studs as well so your nuts could sit properly as they are used to.
Regardless I think it could be done safely (by using longer studs and correct center bore) but it would still be illegal at least in VIC.

youre thinking of spacers alone..
these are adaptors..which is like a bolt on spacer but with a different PCD

**akusuma** · 24-04-2011 11:19 AM

yeah, you are right. I take it back about the point that you would need longer studs

**Importsneezer** · 24-04-2011 11:28 AM

adaptors are fine, im using projectkics 5x114.3 adaptors on a sti. no dramas for a daily.

**babiiiiiiiiiii** · 24-04-2011 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by mugen_ctr

thats the theory, indeed, but when put into practice, any hard evidence to prove it? pictures tell 1000 words lol

maybe put in this way , for normal day use is completely fine coz i had a mate who drive a civic eg as in daily use but he changed to 5stud coz he want that pratiiclar wheel , but which another mate also drive a eg with spacer 5stud conversion but his one is much more modify then the others so at one track day when he changing the wheels it actually cracked on him and he got nothing to backup and its dangerous to drive so end up towaway the car and wasted a day, this is talking from previous experience tho , nothing too bad for using spacer /changing stud for normal day use but it can happens when driving too fast and it can crack on you!!!!

**mikey72** · 24-04-2011 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by babiiiiiiiiiii

maybe put in this way , for normal day use is completely fine coz i had a mate who drive a civic eg as in daily use but he changed to 5stud coz he want that pratiiclar wheel , but which another mate also drive a eg with spacer 5stud conversion but his one is much more modify then the others so at one track day when he changing the wheels it actually cracked on him and he got nothing to backup and its dangerous to drive so end up towaway the car and wasted a day, this is talking from previous experience tho , nothing too bad for using spacer /changing stud for normal day use but it can happens when driving too fast and it can crack on you!!!!

This has already been said. Please don't just go and say it's not safe, because in most cases it will only be used for everyday street driving and for that use they are ok. I'm sure if he wanted to track he would have added into his first post.

**babiiiiiiiiiii** · 25-04-2011 03:49 AM

pls referr to what i have said before , i am just talking in general experience

**Alexx** · 29-04-2011 01:02 PM

Biggest problem with adapters is they are usually ~20mm thick. And that severely limits the wheel/tire specs you can run, especially on hondas.

Just do it right and swap your brakes over for 96 spec dc2r items and enjoy the benefits of the 4x114 setup. Fail offset s13 wheels = perfect for 4x114 hondas.