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ah ok. i don't know if bumpstops were trimmed, i got it done by wholesale suspension so i assumed they knew what they were doing. if i trim the bumpstops, will it affect the ride height or anything else in the future? any idea how much I need to trim in a DC5?
i get the creaking sometimes too in the same situations but i had it before i installed the konis, lot of people have looked at it and concluded it's simply the chassis.
which bushes do you recommend and how would it affect anything if I left them as it is?
thanks for the info it's quite helpful. sorry for all the nub questions and to the op for the hijacking the thread
Last edited by p33r; 11-05-2011 at 09:10 PM.
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Originally Posted by p33r
ah ok. i don't know if bumpstops were trimmed, i got it done by wholesale suspension so i assumed they knew what they were doing. if i trim the bumpstops, will it affect the ride height or anything else in the future? any idea how much I need to trim in a DC5?
i get the creaking sometimes too in the same situations but i had it before i installed the konis, lot of people have looked at it and concluded it's simply the chassis.
which bushes do you recommend and how would it affect anything if I left them as it is?
thanks for the info it's quite helpful. sorry for all the nub questions and to the op for the hijacking the thread
Trimming bumpstops won't affect your height at all, but it'll give you more shock travel so you won't bottom out. trim about 1/3 for modest drop and cut them in half for a low drop.
My creaking only started after I installed the new suspension. I wouldnt say it's the chassis. Bushes most likely or improper seating of the springs. Re-install with lubrication might fix it if it's the shocks and springs.
For bushes I recommend OEM. They might resolve your problems and they definitely will improve the overall handling of the car. Only problem is they are a bitch to change and it'll cost a bit.
Last edited by Mikecivic78; 11-05-2011 at 09:20 PM.
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You pay more for TEIN as IMO, they are a much better brand then BC & BuddyClub.
I've heard of nightmares with BC & Buddyclub but then again BuddyClub N+1 is good bang for buck atm....
Really its up to you in your decision but i think TeinSS would be fine for your needs.
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Just go with Buddyclub N+ or Tein SS. However, tein IMO are not for street balling. They tend to be quite stiff compared to most other coilovers in my experience, but are definitely a good all rounder for the occasional track days. Usually the N+ are much preferred for the streets due to how low it goes and it's how soft they can be.
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I'd go with Tein SS or the buddy club N+ ... Out of those two, i'd choose the Tein SS as it has camber tops (im pretty sure lol), I know the N+ doesnt, but I think the N+ has stiffer spring rates too!
I hoenstly think a "decent quality" shock'spring combo is a waste. They just arent bang for buck IMO, if u want it for the street, obviously one thing that comes to mind is a good look and that comes with a lower looking car, hence why coilovers have height adjustibility.
Imagine going for a shock/spring combo only realising ohh, that wasnt that much of a drop, or it was too much, with coilovers, u have that option.
Im also sure the Tein SS is cheaper than the buddy club n+ also?
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Decent spring/shocks combo > cheap coilovers
Originally Posted by r3ckless
Imagine going for a shock/spring combo only realising ohh, that wasnt that much of a drop, or it was too much,
If this happens, you have been a fool and haven't done your research on how low your new springs will go.
In the case of Konis, they have some height adjustment as you can use lower prerches on the shock. And there's always ground control coilover sleeves available for them if you want better height adjustment.
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Originally Posted by Mikecivic78
In the case of Konis, they have some height adjustment as you can use lower prerches on the shock. And there's always ground control coilover sleeves available for them if you want better height adjustment.
Good advice. However there are no perches on a Koni shock for the front of the DC5 so whatever height you get from a lowering spring at the front you are stuck with, and regardless I think overall GCs are a better option for the DC5 on Konis because it seems like most lowering springs for the chassis make the car too low for their rates, as evidenced by p33r's experience. So some GC sleeves with rates a bit higher than most lowering springs would be a good choice as long as you keep the ride height pretty reasonable. Say 350-400lb/in front and 500-550lb/in rear.
Saying this though I have no first hand experience with Koni dampers in the DC5 chassis so I have no idea if they work well but a lot of track guys on ClubRSX like them as long as ride height is kept fairly high.
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^Agree, since the Konis are insert intothe stock struts, their application seems work well for anything under 1.5inches of lowering otherwise they seem to blow. I heard their newer yellows revised in 08(?) handle the DC5 chassis a lot better but still wouldn't go lower than what's recommended. Unfortunately my eibach pro-kit, which are meant to drop 1.0" front/1.4" rear seem more like a 2" drop overall so I think that's why I'm often hitting the bumpstops.
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When referring to GC sleeves, are you talking about these: http://www.ground-control-store.com/...p/II=508/CA=76
I have decided to get Koni Yellows once I find them at the right price and I am in the process in finding what to accompany them with. I think I read somewhere you can even set the spring rates which I have no idea what would be most suitable. Anyone know the OEM springs rate for DC5R, as I am after a little more firmer ride and ride height a little bit lower than stock.
I figure its best suits me to do shocks and spring combo as I am a daily driver instead of getting a coilover set which I have read very often
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