Too many cranks before start and fuel consumption

[sexy_shazam]

Andy help me find a cheap civic vtec. I want a cheap to run daily with some punch!

Why not something like a Prelude or accord ? I know they are more powerfull than a civic but not sure if they are more cheaper to run. I do hear the Vtir Accords like to drink fuel though. Cant confirm this as ive never owned one.

[dougie_504]

not all the time. My trips are mainly to and from school or mates house so around 4kms and to work twice or thrice a week which is around 7kms and to tafe 2 times a week which i think is around 15km all of these are one way. I think one of these weekends ill fill it up and go for a long high way drive to see if it makes a diffrence. I do give it a spirited drive now and again but only fill up with caltex 95 octane.

After 10min your car should be warm even on a cold day, and staying warm. Check this out for us.

Lol vtir is like extinct... Carsales cheapest one in vic is 15k looks like dick. Theres too many civics around... Got no clue which ones are which and what engines theyre running. Gsi with more ks than mine that are stock and ugly go for like 9-10k on carsales. Ive spent 13k so not too bad a loss.

VTiR there are loads of them dude, check here and FireSport - they're normally $7-9g for a decent example. DC2R's go for around the 15g mark. If you wanted a DC2R you could probably get one (which I just saw) on the road for around $11-12g.
EK4 is a '96-'00 Civic hatch (the shape after mine) with a B16A2 DOHC VTEC standard motor. Reasonably light and would have some good poke.

And those GSI's won't sell at that price.

[dougie_504]

Why not something like a Prelude or accord ? I know they are more powerfull than a civic but not sure if they are more cheaper to run. I do hear the Vtir Accords like to drink fuel though. Cant confirm this as ive never owned one.

Because neither is a true sports car. The Accord is a luxury car and the Prelude is a sports-luxury car. Both are a bit heavy IMO and not many came out with good/sporty engines.

Somebody will probably come along and start talking about how tuff the H22A and H23 engines are, but they're not built like the B's and K's at the end of the day.

[sexy_shazam]

Yup I can confirm that the car warms up to operating temperature after 10 mins of driving. Usually warms up a bit faster once i hit 60km/h.

I do agree that the civics are light. The day I got my civic i was giving it a bit of juice when the light turned green and it was a bit faster than my sisters 07 jazz which isnt bad considering the cars now 14 years old. Ahh if only you could get a 2011 non type R civic hatch.

[charliebrown]

I like the old gen preludes with the triangle looking taillights but never been a fan. Would like a euro but doesnt suit me, looks too old people.

Maybe cos I always set the kilometres to <150000km so I dont see them. too many dc2 and dc2rs been thrashed around. I can afford a dc2r or dc5r soon but I cant afford to fork out for insurance. I like eg hatch or ek coupes, not a fam of ek hatches tbh. You gotta link me to these 7-9k dc2s man, I must be blind

Someones gotta buy those overpriced gsis... I mean I bought mine for 10k and theres dumber people out there than me

[sexy_shazam]

I like the old gen preludes with the triangle looking taillights but never been a fan. Would like a euro but doesnt suit me, looks too old people.

I like the preludes but I also like how nimble a stock civic is plus i prefer smaller cars.

A family friend has an 87 or late 80's prelude and this thing has over 500,000kms on it and its on its original motor.

[ToF]

Hey dougie,

A while back I grabbed a number of workshop manuals relating to my car and motor from some yank Spooner Tuner site (http://www.spoonertuner.com/) but it seems the webpage listing all the manuals (http://www.spoonertuner.com/manuals) is down right now throwing some error and lots of useless code.

Fortunately I had the direct links saved in history to be able to get the directory listing:
http://www.spoonertuner.com/media/do...manuals/honda/
Integra is in this one - http://www.spoonertuner.com/media/do...manuals/acura/

Hope that helps. Might be good to sticky the links or host it on ozhonda in case it gets taken down in the future?

Hope I don't come across as some attention seeking douche, but the manuals here are pretty useful and maybe you guys missed this post in the heat of the discussion about a new car and new page.

[dougie_504]

Hope I don't come across as some attention seeking douche, but the manuals here are pretty useful and maybe you guys missed this post in the heat of the discussion about a new car and new page.

I did actually, missed the last two posts on that page haha. Thanks!

[charliebrown]

Lukey posted the service manual on the previous page as well incase you missed that. I'm on phone so i can't dl/view them

[beeza]

I apologise if this has been covered, did a quick search but would prefer to have a straight answer to my specific problem.

I've had my car for 6 months and when i just got it, it would crank once and start. Nowadays it's taking 3ish and sometimes even more, seems to be struggling to start. Would anyone be able to tell me what's going on?

And also my fuel consumption is now at 13-15L/100km even after replacing my broken thermostat. I thought changing it would let the car run at the right temp and fix the problem but it's still chewing hard. Now i've heard o2 sensors and fuel filters may be the culprit. Is there anything i can check myself without having to take the car to mechanics? Haven't got time and wallet getting real thin since i drive daily and tank only takes me 250km.

The car is 104xxx km, automatic, integra gsi. Heavy start-stop driving, giving it the occasional boot

Thanks for any help

Get a Mega Raizen,best product!

Will help a lot.

[charliebrown]

Get a Mega Raizen,best product!

Will help a lot.

Can't tell if you're serious or not... i can't seem to find much info on this 'mega raizin'?

[Lukey]

u spelt it wrong charlie?