[CU2] 2011 Face lift

[praja6]

Hi guys,

have a look at the recommended onroad price for the new euro. its interesting the stanard auto is 47k and the lux auto is 51k. i can't believe the difference is only 4k between stanard and luxuary model mainly for sunroof and leather trim, here its more than 8k. Don't know honda decided to keep the gap narrow between stanard and lux model, may be same going to be here in australia too?


http://www.honda.co.nz/new-cars/acco...icing-options/

[I CU2]

these specs are from honda new zealand site. Normally australian and nz model identical rite?

I'm pretty sure NZ has auto folding mirrors that we don't have and both their models use the standard 17" rims, not like the 17" for base and 18" for luxury.

There's probably a few more differences but I didn't look at them closely, oh and with the facelift model it seems that the NZ model doesn't have that DRL through the highbeam.

The Russian model kept the DRL : http://www.honda.co.ru/CommonFiles/H...ior/Foto-2.jpg

I thought pricing for NZ cars was always higher than that of Australia anyway?

[s-ichigo]

yes, a bit higher.. also Honda NZ has this thing called "Our Price Promise" they sell it at the retail price not a dollar less.

[SPQR]

Gone is Cobalt Blue but we miss out on Vortex Blue (Acura TSX) and instead get washed out Celestial Blue. Honda twits.

Celestial Blue is the sedan at : http://carincs.com/2011-honda-accord-for-europe

Vortex Blue: http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=679419

[antony]

I beleive there will be a new Silver,Blue,Grey,and Red.

The only colours which will be identical will be the Black and White.

Europe has had a scattered release,as some countries have the new Euro,others dont.

I am sure the earthquake in Japan has had something to do with it,as NO production from 11 March to 11 April,and production is now running at 50 percent capacity,because of parts shortages from suppliers.

Capacity should be 100 percent again by the end of the year.

[SPQR]

yes, a bit higher.. also Honda NZ has this thing called "Our Price Promise" they sell it at the retail price not a dollar less.

That would be illegal in OZ.

[I CU2]

That would be illegal in OZ.

Does that only apply for the Automotive industry because Apple, Miele, Asko etc. do it.

[SPQR]

Does that only apply for the Automotive industry because Apple, Miele, Asko etc. do it.

In OZ, unless specifically authorised by the ACCC, it's illegal for a manufacturer or importer or distributor of any goods or services to attempt to maintain a set retail price or to try to penalise or deny supply to any of their retailers that try to sell for less. frankly, I don't know why it's allowed in NZ.

See: http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.../itemId/788551

Extract:

"The restrictive trade practices provisions contained in Part IV of the (Trade Practices) Act—ss. 45 to 50A—prohibit the following types of anti-competitive conduct. However, some can be authorised or cleared by the ACCC.

Agreements affecting competition—these are prohibited if they have the purpose or effect of substantially lessening competition. Prohibited outright are:

-most price agreements

-agreements containing exclusionary provisions, commonly known as primary boycotts, that is, collective refusals to deal with another party.

Price fixing agreements between competitors may be authorised if significant benefit to the public can be established."

[Fredoops]

Car dealers are franchisees, not normal retailers per se. As such the price fixing rules doesnt apply same way when it comes to car dealers of the same brand because all the rights remain with Honda so there isn't competition. My understanding is it would be illegal for direct competitors to price fix, eg: Ford price fix with Holden. But Holden vs Holden is another matter as both dealers have exclusive right to a particular region (eg: west Sydney, south Sydney etc) as such car dealers cant be competitors with each other in the legal sense anyway.

Apple reseller are also franchsees so they by sorta bypass the price fixing laws too, even more so, apple wholesaler the goods to retailers at the retail rate, the reimburse the retailer the profit based on volume.

[SPQR]

^^ Should I stand corrected? Can dealers fix prices with manufacturers/importers/distributors. Probably not. The franchise agreement is between franchisor and franchisee but nothing in the legislation covering franchises overrides the general prohibition in the Trade Practices Act on price agreements. And the evidence is also in the buying: You can shop around between different Honda dealers and get different prices for the same car.

[Fredoops]

^^ Should I stand corrected? Can dealers fix prices with manufacturers/importers/distributors. Probably not. The franchise agreement is between franchisor and franchisee but nothing in the legislation covering franchises overrides the general prohibition in the Trade Practices Act on price agreements. And the evidence is also in the buying: You can shop around between different Honda dealers and get different prices for the same car.

I'm confused then, say if there's a nationwide driveway deal of say $17,999 for a Honda jazz for all dealers, or 2 KFCs selling zinger burgers at the same price, then Honda and KFC is breaching the TPA?