Street racing charge

[V8KLLR]

My friend and a friend of a friend have been charged with street racing and speeding in excess of 30km.

The story straight up no bs, is that they were not racing. They were on the highway and there is an inclination. 100m before the start of the incline. Person B eggs Person A [my friend] on. Person A joins in. The speed limit is 70km/h they play show off/copy cat and both reach 90km. They maintain that speed for 75m until the crest of the hill. They didnt try to overtake eachother. Person B decides to slow down once he reaches the crest. Upon reaching the crest he sees a RBT. Both are charged. They were calm and co-operative. Told the police that they were in the wrong and speeding. Police officer suspends their licence for a month and vehicle. The police have no evidence. Only the statements given. There is no visual on them racing, and no speed camera or radar only that they 'heard them' Court case in a month. Police officer said himself that " You both seem to be good guys that have just made a mistake. Everyone does it, you've just done it on the wrong night' He also says that they'd get an approx $1000 fine and theyd have to pay for their cars towing and impounding and that'd be the end of it as it is both their first major offence

Has anyone had experience with this? Person A is sh!tting himself. He had a speeding ticket 4 months ago 20km over the limit and a series of minor traffic offences. His a good guy and knows he made a mistake.

He has sought legal advice from a lawyer and they dropped the line of "12 month suspension".

Please no "he deserves it" "or fast and the furious 5 wannabe etc" I wouldnt post this up if I didnt think it was abit unfair. Two guys going 20km over the limit and have no intention of beating the other person or going any faster get slugged with street racing which is a criminal offence?

[louie]

too many times i hear these stories, a friend of mine was "caught" drag racing during a mini car cruise with a couple of friends ( we were all going under the speed limit) .... its just that they have the power to say "they" were racing. only thing you could do is take it to court and fight it and get away with no offences...

[trism]

1. Cops word wins every time without hard evidence against it. That's why they are police.
2. Egging on, showing off, speeding, is bad to start with. Two cars doing it next to each other is street racing. Thems the the rules, deal with it.

[TheSaint]

lol thats a pretty crap lawyer man

i would advise to state all the facts admitting speed numbers and the whole story - make sure it is similar to the other persons story but not the same

ask the police prosecutor and magistrate if he can plead to a charge of speeding - but not the other stuff - if not - ask for it to be adjourned to seek legal advice but also ask that he retains his license - as the offense wasnt that bad and he is innocent until proven guilty

usually if the police dont have mutch evidence and they know they dont have a case - but it looks like the defendant is going to take it to trial - they will accept a negotiated lesser charge - because they dont want to waste the magistrates time

also - the magic number for hooning is 45km/h over - anything under that and it is a fine and points

[V8KLLR]

Cheers Louie thats definitely what the two are doing.
Trism- 1. Thats what I thought until I asked my friend who's uncle is a senior police officer of some sort and he said they have no leg to stand on with no radar/camera
2. Fair enough. Thanks for the input.

[TheSaint]

i have just been done on a fixed camera for speeding on the way to see my old man who was dying in hospital
i will plead to what i believe i was doing - but i do not believe i was over the 'hoon' limit as they allege

i cant afford to loose my licence for 12months over something this petty - and i have a clean record + all points

so my lawyer is trying to negotiate pleading to just speeding + fine + points - otherwise im taking it to trial

[1590cc]

True story bro. Happened to a friend of a friend of mine

[V8KLLR]

lol thats a pretty crap lawyer man

i would advise to state all the facts admitting speed numbers and the whole story - make sure it is similar to the other persons story but not the same

ask the police prosecutor and magistrate if he can plead to a charge of speeding - but not the other stuff - if not - ask for it to be adjourned to seek legal advice but also ask that he retains his license - as the offense wasnt that bad and he is innocent until proven guilty

usually if the police dont have mutch evidence and they know they dont have a case - but it looks like the defendant is going to take it to trial - they will accept a negotiated lesser charge - because they dont want to waste the magistrates time

also - the magic number for hooning is 45km/h over - anything under that and it is a fine and points

Thank you very much for the info!

[TheSaint]

Cheers Louie thats definitely what the two are doing.
Trism- 1. Thats what I thought until I asked my friend who's uncle is a senior police officer of some sort and he said they have no leg to stand on with no radar/camera
2. Fair enough. Thanks for the input.

exactly right - i have a family freind who is a seniour sergent (oldschool dude - doesnt take BS) he says that if ur being an idiot than fare enough - but harmless stuff like this with no evidence is just a waste of everyones time

[jeremydawg]

well... you break the law, you get caught, you confess, you get charged. simple as that. I doubt the cops would give the smallest piece of ant shite wether they are "good guys" or not.

Maybe if they denied breaking the law and the officers couldnt prove it they couldve gotten away with it

[TheSaint]

well... you break the law, you get caught, you confess, you get charged. simple as that. I doubt the cops would give the smallest piece of ant shite wether they are "good guys" or not.

Maybe if they denied breaking the law and the officers couldnt prove it they couldve gotten away with it

it does actually go to your favor if the policeman writing the report and filing the paper work is in a good mood or not
can make a small thing large or a large thing small in court =/

[V8KLLR]

exactly right - i have a family freind who is a seniour sergent (oldschool dude - doesnt take BS) he says that if ur being an idiot than fare enough - but harmless stuff like this with no evidence is just a waste of everyones time

Hopefully the magistrate doesnt rule with an iron fist and see's that its harmless aswell

well... you break the law, you get caught, you confess, you get charged. simple as that.

Maybe if they denied breaking the law and the officers couldnt prove it they couldve gotten away with it

Yea thats pretty much what person A said in retrospect.