CL9 best polish and wax products? (light swirl marks)

[aaronng]

SwirlX contains abrasives. I have used it by hand and you will have a great big and strong right arm after (if you are right handed).

[aaronng]

My euro was black and showed swirl marks real bad. All I ever used was meguiars paint cleaner on a micro fiber cloth and it came up great. Anything else I tried made it worse.

Meguiar's paint cleaner (purple bottle) is a chemical paint cleaner with a filler in it. It is not abrasive and won't correct swirls, just hide them.

[buddah51au]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...-Detail-of-CU2

[HunterZero]

SwirlX contains abrasives. I have used it by hand and you will have a great big and strong right arm after (if you are right handed).

At least it doesn't take as long to work as the original ScratchX! That stuff took forever...

- HZ

[Type R Positive]

Are you sure about that? I am pretty sure it is a very fine non-diminishing mechanical abrasive. I don't know of any chemical swirl removing polishing products for cars?

- HZ

SwirlX contains abrasives. I have used it by hand and you will have a great big and strong right arm after (if you are right handed).

http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-swirl-remover.html

No abrasives. Unless meg's are lying about their own product?

[white_ep3_civic]

Ah ok, I'm not really wanting to spend more than a full day on the process. Since my car is white, swirls are not so noticeable so might skip the polishing stage.



Oh ok, what other products did you try?

Did you use and applicator pad to apply then micro ibre pad to remove? or microfibre the whole way?

I tried a couple of different polishes none then did a better job than the paint cleaner. I just used one micro fiber cloth to rub the polish in then one micro fiber cloth to take it off. I left it on there for a little while before taking it off.

[white_ep3_civic]

Meguiar's paint cleaner (purple bottle) is a chemical paint cleaner with a filler in it. It is not abrasive and won't correct swirls, just hide them.

this stuff was in a red bottle

[HunterZero]

http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-swirl-remover.html

No abrasives. Unless meg's are lying about their own product?

They are lying about their own product. It's called 'marketing'.

Consumers don't like the word 'abrasive' in car cleaning products. When a car polish is very finely abrasive, they usually say it's 'non-abrasive' and 'clear coat safe'.

I can assure you SwirlX contains very fine non-diminishing abrasive.

- HZ

[Kevl]

Thanks HZ, I clayed the car very lightly and it's very smooth now.

SwirlX didn't really do anything (no noticeable distance by hand) so I didn't end up using it. Put a coat of nxt 2.0 and the car looks shinier and kind if filled in the swirls but they are still noticeable. My car feels really smooth now.

We also used swirlX on my friends car (1997 red misubishi mirage Asti) and it looks so much better now. The red really pops and the difference is like night and day. So it worked really well on her car but not on mine.

How do you guys get rid of tough stuff which is kind of stuck to the paint, road grime remover?

[HunterZero]

Thanks HZ, I clayed the car very lightly and it's very smooth now.

Isn't the clay bar magic?

SwirlX didn't really do anything (no noticeable distance by hand) so I didn't end up using it. Put a coat of nxt 2.0 and the car looks shinier and kind if filled in the swirls but they are still noticeable. My car feels really smooth now.

As we said before, you'd probaby be at it for quite a while with swirlx to completely remove the fine scratches by hand. It's very hard to see the difference in gloss on a white or silver car.

We also used swirlX on my friends car (1997 red misubishi mirage Asti) and it looks so much better now. The red really pops and the difference is like night and day. So it worked really well on her car but not on mine.

Red and black are the two of the colours that benefit the most from polish. The Mitsu red paint is notorious for oxidising and going chalky, polishing it would have removed the hazy dead layer of paint on top. I don't think it's clear coated? Did red paint come off on the polishing foam/rag?

How do you guys get rid of tough stuff which is kind of stuck to the paint, road grime remover?

You need a tar and bug remover, something like Tarminator, Autoglym Intensive Tar Remover, Meguiar's Gold Class Tar Remover... Any number of brands. Wash the area and re-apply wax to the area when you're done, the tar remover will remove all the wax and sealant.

I am presuming (and hoping) you don't have dealer paint protection?

- HZ

[aaronng]

http://www.autogeek.net/meguiars-swirl-remover.html

No abrasives. Unless meg's are lying about their own product?

They are lying. The company I work for owns Meguiars.

The MSDS for SwirlX states that it contains kaolin and aluminium oxide, both of which are abrasives. Kaolin is finer and very mild, plus it also acts as a filler to make swirls less noticeable. The aluminium oxide is the diminishing abrasive.

http://www.meguiars.com.au/msds/G17616.pdf

[Kevl]

Isn't the clay bar magic?

Haha yes it is, such a big difference.

As we said before, you'd probaby be at it for quite a while with swirlx to completely remove the fine scratches by hand. It's very hard to see the difference in gloss on a white or silver car.

Yea, I may just get someone to professionally detail the car later on and just maintain it. The swirls are acceptable atm and like you said, not very noticeable on a white car.

Red and black are the two of the colours that benefit the most from polish. The Mitsu red paint is notorious for oxidising and going chalky, polishing it would have removed the hazy dead layer of paint on top. I don't think it's clear coated? Did red paint come off on the polishing foam/rag?

Yup there was a hazy/chalky layer on the paint which is now gone. It might not be clear coated? Yea some red paint came off on the polishing foam whereas nothing came of on my car.

You need a tar and bug remover, something like Tarminator, Autoglym Intensive Tar Remover, Meguiar's Gold Class Tar Remover... Any number of brands. Wash the area and re-apply wax to the area when you're done, the tar remover will remove all the wax and sealant.

I am presuming (and hoping) you don't have dealer paint protection?

- HZ

Oh ok, Was on a bit of a budget so didnt buy a tar & bug remover but will next time.

Nope no paint protection