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					Clearing EPA, how do they usually test it?
				
					
						
							So I got EPA'ed last night and wanted to know how they test the loudness of my car.
 How high do they rev the car to obtain the db reading?
 
 Car in question is a DC5R, toda headers with a mugen twin loop. Factory DC5R does not allow you to rev the car past 5k rpm while being stationary. So I was wondering if I would fall under the limit if I took my car to a tester as it is at the moment, without reverting the exhaust system back to the standard one.
 
 According to this youtube video, the mugen twin loop exhaust is pretty much the same volume as the OEM exhaust.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							if you did a quick google seearch, im sure youll find the answer. its not like youre the first person to ever ask this question
						 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							they set up a microphone thing on a stand about 30cm from ur exhaust tip and rev it to a certain rev and and get a noise level on there little computer jigger connected to the microphone.
 personally i think ur better to go back to stock as it costs money to get it tested.
 
 you also cant do it on a rainy day either
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		
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	Already tried googling it and searched on ozhonda. Can't find anything in regards to my stock ecu having a rev limit of 5k rpm while being stationary, So would they just test it at 5k rpm?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by trism   if you did a quick google seearch, im sure youll find the answer. its not like youre the first person to ever ask this question 
 
 
 
	You wouldn't happen to know what revs they conduct the tests at would you? Do they test it at a certain percentage of the redline revs?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Lukey   they set up a microphone thing on a stand about 30cm from ur exhaust tip and rev it to a certain rev and and get a noise level on there little computer jigger connected to the microphone.
 personally i think ur better to go back to stock as it costs money to get it tested.
 
 you also cant do it on a rainy day either
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							its tested at 75% of where it makes its peak power
 easy example would be a car that makes peak power at 10,000rpm would be tested at 7500rpm,
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							it varies from vehicle to vehicle. mine got tested at 4750rpm
 they will also have a look at ur exhaust system and make a small diagram on it aswell
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		
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							they rev to 5000RPM if the vehicle is made from 1989 onwards if i recall.... though since u say dc5r cant rev to that whilst stationary, than im sure they will just rev it to what ever its limited to id assume....
 To be safe, get a independent tester, to test the Mugen twinloop to see if it matches with the video, or else ur gonna have to go back to oem exhaust to pass....
 
 Or if u want a easy pass, just go oem all the way, swap the cat back over later on... the headers u can keep, as it doesn't effect noise so much.
 
 Just to give an idea, on my car, reved to 5000rom, i hit 87db! on stock system lol, bit high but i passed
   
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by lemmiwinks   Already tried googling it and searched on ozhonda. Can't find anything in regards to my stock ecu having a rev limit of 5k rpm while being stationary, So would they just test it at 5k rpm?
 
 
 
 You wouldn't happen to know what revs they conduct the tests at would you? Do they test it at a certain percentage of the redline revs?
 
 are you serious? did you even look at my link? all your answeres are in the first result!!!
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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	I'm probably just going to revert everything back to oem just to be safe.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by mugen_ctr   they rev to 5000RPM if the vehicle is made from 1989 onwards if i recall.... though since u say dc5r cant rev to that whilst stationary, than im sure they will just rev it to what ever its limited to id assume.... 
To be safe, get a independent tester, to test the Mugen twinloop to see if it matches with the video, or else ur gonna have to go back to oem exhaust to pass....
 
Or if u want a easy pass, just go oem all the way, swap the cat back over later on... the headers u can keep, as it doesn't effect noise so much.
 
Just to give an idea, on my car, reved to 5000rom, i hit 87db! on stock system lol, bit high but i passed   
 
 
 
	Yes I did read that, but I'm still not certain what rev's they would conduct the tests at. 75% of my ESMP would be 6075 RPM, however the stock DC5R ecu does not allow you to rev past 5k rpm while being stationary. More interested to know if someone has been in a similar position where their car could not rev to 75%.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by trism   are you serious? did you even look at my link? all your answeres are in the first result!!! 
 
 
	Code: Where the ESMP for that engine has been determined by the testing
authority the engine shall be brought to and stabilised at a speed as close to
¾ ESMP as the testing officer can achieve; 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	you wont have to revert everything over ... its only the muffler that will make the system loud
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by lemmiwinks   I'm probably just going to revert everything back to oem just to be safe. 
Yes I did read that, but I'm still not certain what rev's they would conduct the tests at. 75% of my ESMP would be 6075 RPM, however the stock DC5R ecu does not allow you to rev past 5k rpm while being stationary. More interested to know if someone has been in a similar position where their car could not rev to 75%.
  
	Code: Where the ESMP for that engine has been determined by the testing
authority the engine shall be brought to and stabilised at a speed as close to
¾ ESMP as the testing officer can achieve; can you unbolt the axel back and bolt on your OEM muffler?
 that would be the easiest solution
 
 from memory a stock Dc2 will only just pass the test lol
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
							
						
				
					
						
							Yeh, I've still got the oem muffler which I will bolt back on. Although the mugen twin loop would probably fall under 90db at 4-5k rpm anyway. Always good to be safe   
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
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