Cammed Motors Specs + DYNO Graph Mandatory

[TODA AU]

VTEC X-Over - unknown

Vtec X-over - 5000rpm

Re before & after...
Can do... But Nick, you'll need to PM me your rego number so can print one off & scan it.

Nb. The old ECU was an AEM EMS, so part of the gain (7~8kw*) is the swap to Hondata with better cam control.
* Based on 2 previous cars (EK K20 & DC5 K24) tuned with AEM then swapped to Hondata & tuned again.

[u mad?]

Adrian is that power output typical for a jdm k20a with all the basic bolt-ons with cams? Did you choose/suggest this combo?

[TODA AU]

Adrian is that power output typical for a jdm k20a with all the basic bolt-ons with cams? Did you choose/suggest this combo?

The combination used for this car is all Nicks. Nick built it himself & has proved more than capable with the spanners.
My input was as the tuner, so to be fair I’d say; though this sort of output is most certainly achievable with decent parts & tuning,
I wouldn't say it was typical.
The main power advantages for K-swaps like this over & above the bolt-on parts & cams used are no power steering & no A/C.
(That’s power to the wheels)
Disadvantages include noise & comfort.

[GSi_PSi]

Adrian whats your thoughts on the electric power steering pump from the mr2 for the kswapped cars?.
8hp vs 1-2 hp loss

[mocchi]

Adrian whats your thoughts on the electric power steering pump from the mr2 for the kswapped cars?.
8hp vs 1-2 hp loss

what do you mean 8hp vs 1-2 hp loss?

[beeza]

Engine - d16y4 SOHC Non Vtec
Displacement - 1.6L
Bore - 75mm
Stroke - 90mm
CR - 9.2:1
Camshaft - Bisimoto Level 1
Camgear Settings - 7 deg. advanced
Gearbox - Stock auto
I/H/E - Custom Cold Air/Wrapped 4-2-1 X-Force/2" Mandrel bent,no res.
ECU - Stock..

Low in power numbers but a great fun car to drive none the less.

[GSi_PSi]

Well Claimed Hp Loss when using P/S is around 6-8hp

[TODA AU]

Well Claimed Hp Loss when using P/S is around 6-8hp

I've actually tested it on a B-Series track engine & the loss was 5.7kw.
The loss starts at 8200rpm with the total loss realised by 9100rpm
164.3kw vs 170kw
So that equates to 7.6hp at the wheels...
But it's only right up in the top end, the rest of the rev range is even stevens
NB:This is using an underdrive system vs none but I don't have any info re vs std pulley sizes but it's likley to be a little more.
The electric pump sounds like a good idea though as K's see measurable gains for using such systems (EP3, FN2, CL7)



The above sheet illistrates the power loss from no power steering to using an under drive OEM power steering system. The main loss is up high.

[evil R34]

Disadvantages include noise & comfort.

hahahahahaha definitely noise


and thanks yonas must be those headers :P haha will cya on the 10th of october

[TODA AU]

As requested, Nick's (evil R34) before & after dyno sheet.
Please see post # 527 for specs.
evil R34 can elaborate on the changes.

[TODA AU]

Customer car

Engine - B18C2 (AUDM DC2 VtiR Motor)
Displacement - 1797cc
Bore -81.00mm
Stroke - 87.2mm
CR -Standard - Approx 10.2:1
Camshaft - Skunk 2 B-Series Pro 1 (SK2 valve train - cams, springs, retainers, valves)
Camgear Settings - Intake 105deg LCA / Exhaust 98deg LCA
Gearbox - OEM DC2 VtiR
I/H/E - GruppeM + Custom 3" pipe + SK2 70mm throttle + SK2 intake manifold + Buddyclub Header + 200Cel metal cat + 2.5" echaust.
ECU - Hondata OBD2a P28 S300

Notes:
* Above graph shows before & after power output (Base is stock - no modifications)
* The head has recived extensive port work based on our latest race engine data.
* There are a few pit falls in using this combination without certain proccesses being performed.
* The midrange could be improved significantly with the use of a better header (Ie Toda)
* Alternative camshafts may also deliver better results (I'll know soon enough anyway)

[Slaz]

Impressive all things considered on the above post.....

So a cam change is going to happen?