Bang for Buck: ek9 springs/shocks on Em1/Ek4

[Alvis]

alvis,
coilovers hands down everyday.

with the driveway you need harder springs to stop the compression when going up the driveway. You can only get this in coilovers and before you say coilovers are too hard for everyday driving, get the right ones and you wont be saying that.

have you tried both to compare yet ?

Hey Lan, no not personally; I've been in a friends car but no not in mine. Again, just from what I've read on the net and from what a few people on here have said (Tai, MikeCivic78 etc), but then again like you said, some people love the coils for the road.

I saw the Best Motoring International Type R doco (one of the older ones that starts with the NSX and goes to the EK9), and man, seeing a stock EK9 going around some of those twisty Japanese tracks in the wet on the limit with ths stock ctr shocks/springs sure is impressive After seeing that shocks/springs are more than enough for me on the road

[EG52NV]

I have a question how do you know someone is selling genuine ek9 shock and spring setup or just EK1/4 shocks with $50 dc2r springs? They would look exactly the same id imagine

[Alvis]

Sorry to butt in EK52NV: but 2 links below that are pretty cool to watch from Best Motoring International Type R Legend from my previous post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nidwa7IIgl4 (skip to 7.15 for CTR)

cont: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6uDZLs5GMs


AND this is awesome - skip to 8 min mark for Spoon Integra Type R and pump up your speakers!! Farq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK8NvW36RTk

cont: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYtv1P3AwJc

[mugen_ctr]

im no pro at suspension, but you just bought $400 springs and now buying shocks?
why not just go coilovers? would seem more practical.

his practically buying sports suspension from Spoon...... Sports doesnt mean coilovers, coilovers are more race orientated, hence why they call it sports/street....
and being sports/street, most tuners only offer a strut+spring combo for street use, and its not just spoon, but nismo, trd etc etc.... although they cost any where from 1k to 1.5 for just springs an struts, an u think, wtf... soo $$$$, why not go coilovers, but as mentioned, these have R&D done to them extensively to the car

[Mikecivic78]

alvis,
coilovers hands down everyday.

with the driveway you need harder springs to stop the compression when going up the driveway. You can only get this in coilovers and before you say coilovers are too hard for everyday driving, get the right ones and you wont be saying that.

have you tried both to compare yet ?

Yes Lan, you do make a good point about stopping the compression of springs up a driveway, but if the driveway is steep with say a spoon drain at the top (like I have), it can beach ur car if it's too low. That said, with coilovers height adjustment can take care of that, but unless you get more up-market coilovers, you cannot also have decent daily drive ride quality.

Depends what level of harshness you can take, but being a married man I can say the wife wouldn't be too happy having cheap coilies on the daily workhorse. As a weekend car with another car as a soft daily then you could by all means go cheap coilovers IMO.

[getm_up]

so, the verdict is......?
spoon sussy doesnt sound bad just looks like the car is about to go offroad lol

[Alvis]

personal preference I guess really, but if you look at how a stock CTR handles on a shock/spring setup on the above videos, I think you'll pretty much answer your own question (not trying to be rude so don't take offence, but I think people need to keep it real and remember they are on the road and not the track everyday )

Yes, the Spoon Sports sussy doesn't sit as low as coils, but given the R&D Spoon do, it doesn't have to, and who cares about what other people think about how low your car is. Another thing that annoys me lol. You have to be happy with it because you're the one driving it. End of story

[mugen_ctr]

personal preference I guess really, but if you look at how a stock CTR handles on a shock/spring setup on the above videos, I think you'll pretty much answer your own question (not trying to be rude so don't take offence, but I think people need to keep it real and remember they are on the road and not the track everyday )

Yes, the Spoon Sports sussy doesn't sit as low as coils, but given the R&D Spoon do, it doesn't have to, and who cares about what other people think about how low your car is. Another thing that annoys me lol. You have to be happy with it because you're the one driving it. End of story

+1 well said.... who gives a flying crap of what others think..... at the end of the day, its ur pride an joy

Have u considered koni shocks over spoon? they are considerable cheaper than the spoon, but are just as good

[Alvis]

^ You know what man, you absolutely read my mind. I was literally just doing a search comparing Spoon v KONI Yellow shock data to see the difference.

I have the Spoon data below, but I have no idea how to interpret this - does anyone know what this means in 'very simple' language?

COM/TEN
0.05m/sec:
F85/-50kgf
R60/-36kgf

0.1m/sec:
F120/-84kgf
R90/-55kgf

0.3m/sec:
F218/-147kgf
R148/-83kgf


My spring rates are:
lbs (pounds) = 320F/200R.
kg/cm = 6.5F~ 5.5R


If I was to combine these shock rates with the spring rate would this = medium/ firm / hard / harsh ride quality?

[Mikecivic78]

Alvis, the only thing I understood there in your post were your spring rates.

Are Spoon dampers also damper adjustable?

[Alvis]

Alvis, the only thing I understood there in your post were your spring rates.

Are Spoon dampers also damper adjustable?

That makes 2 of us lol... nope they're a fix damper

I'm guessing they have something to do with the rebound rate...maybe...?

[Alvis]

All right guys I think I've worked it out! Get ready for a pretty big post in my attempt to try and explain what shock figures mean (if you don't already know).