Whats The Best Stage 2 Cam To Use In a B18cr??

[Slaz]

Ofcourse, you're right.

But this man appears to be on a budget, and a $1500 Header isn't exactly good on the Power:Cost ratio.
He wants his goal, we're supposed to be pointing him towards a good solution.. Not the best of the best that is totally unnecessary and costs more than the car itself.
Every time somone asks for advice, all i see is high end stuff being recommended to people with relatively standard cars, and little car knowledge.

We're supposed to be helping, aren't we? Let's be realistic.

Well about helping the man then with your knowledge and enlighten us all on how YOU would go about it opposed to some broad statement that discredits proven parts and or services, as you come across as if you know your shit?

[Jccck]

Usually inexperienced people will set an unrealistic goal.. Regardless of budget, so in most cases the goal is lowered when they 'learn' a few things.

I didn't imply that you had to purchase chinese eBay performance parts for the build.
But $700 on a Mugen/Injen Intake is a REDICULOUS waste of money.

Ofcourse it's possible, 140kw is a small fraction of the N/A potential of a Honda Motor.
But Axeplicit quoted almost $6000 for 140kw.. You've got to be kidding.

[Jccck]

Well about helping the man then with your knowledge and enlighten us all on how YOU would go about it opposed to some broad statement that discredits proven parts and or services, as you come across as if you know your shit?

Sure.

Clean, Port/Polish+Shave the Head ($500ish)
Gasket match the Intake Manifold (Most people can do this with a Dremel for free)
Buy a new TB ($150ish) ..But i wouldn't bother
AEM, Weapon R, or even just some flashy Intake Piping with an Apexi/K&N Filter (150 gets you something nice, and 500+ gets you a whisker more power.. You decide)
Camshafts (Whatever you wish to pay)
Cam Gear (Same as above)
Springs+Retainers ($400ish)
AEM EMS+Dynotune ($1600-2000 Depends where you buy it from, and who's your tuner)
Exhaust+Hiflow Cat ($600-900 Depending on the Cat, and the piping)
Header (You can spend anywhere from $100 to $1500.. Your choice)
Intake Manifold Heat-Shielding Gasket ($50ish)
Rerout the Coolant Lines in the TB (Free)

Did i miss anything?
I fully support the market of quality parts.. But if i were to toss up between spending twice the amount of money on a bolt-on that WON'T blow my Motor up, that will only net 10-15% more power.. I feel the money is better spent on another mod.
Why can't people agree with this??

[Alexplicit]

you want proven performance, you pay the dollar.

sure you can get things that work, but the amount of engineering that goes in them is what you pay for.

im in no way shape or form an expert of any car, but when someone i know races hondas, and builds performance honda engines for a living and has seen every variation of parts used and tells me what parts to use to get every bit of power out of my car im going to listen. and if that means saving for a bit longer so be it.

[Slaz]

Sure.

Clean, Port/Polish+Shave the Head ($500ish)
Gasket match the Intake Manifold (Most people can do this with a Dremel for free)
Buy a new TB ($150ish) ..But i wouldn't bother
AEM, Weapon R, or even just some flashy Intake Piping with an Apexi/K&N Filter (150 gets you something nice, and 500+ gets you a whisker more power.. You decide)
Camshafts (Whatever you wish to pay)
Cam Gear (Same as above)
Springs+Retainers ($400ish)
AEM EMS+Dynotune ($1600-2000 Depends where you buy it from, and who's your tuner)
Exhaust+Hiflow Cat ($600-900 Depending on the Cat, and the piping)
Header (You can spend anywhere from $100 to $1500.. Your choice)
Intake Manifold Heat-Shielding Gasket ($50ish)
Rerout the Coolant Lines in the TB (Free)

Did i miss anything?
I fully support the market of quality parts.. But if i were to toss up between spending twice the amount of money on a bolt-on that WON'T blow my Motor up, that will only net 10-15% more power.. I feel the money is better spent on another mod.
Why can't people agree with this??

F me, a proper head service with no porting will set you back $500!

But yes for me anyway, you missed the part where you were going to explain what combination of parts within his budget were going to help him obtain his goal in power and budget from your knowledge, not write a list of areas to consider with a price range of what can be spent.

Can I ask, what B series engine have you bought, built, had built, owned that gives you some idea of what parts, what builder/tuner and the outcome of this build at what price point?

This for me given your earlier statment and obvious knowledge would be handy for me....

[Benson]

To the OP,

Before you put in the cams in, make sure you have other supporting mods for the motor.

Here is a breakdown of what i would use -

4-2-1 Tri-Y headers - $400-$500
Custom Intake + BLox Air Filter - $350 - $400
Hondata S300 + tuning - $1250
Full Exhaust system - $1000

This will net you 125-130kw's on a internally stock dc2r. Add a set of cams, might get you up to 135-140kw's

Hope that helps anwser your question.

[GSi_PSi]

Lol Adrian, Leo and Alex don't bother with this jcck guy he likes to talk and can never back up any of his claims. Apparently according to him all non-Vtec heads flow and respond to mods better than Vtec heads.
I like the bit in his post where he pointed out what Ever you wish to pay for camshafts and camgears lol wtf I want to pay for plastic camshafts because there cheap and it should work the same as the quality stuf riiiiight ???

Off the shelf toda has the best header available in Australia for the b16/b18c engines, and countless times I've seen toda equipment just pull amazing numbers and amazing times. Sure you can grab replicas and cheaper items but if you want a almost guaranteed power figure then toda as shown by his recent b18c builds is the way to go.

[tripleuse]

**** the b go k

[Alexplicit]

FOR 5K??? WHERE WHERE WHERE TELL ME TELL ME hehe

[Mr.Brightside]

k20a3 motor

[tripleuse]

i got a k20 with 6 speed gearbox under 5k LOL, he has 10k to run with from his previous posts. and k24 would be even cheaper, b series is a waste of time/money IMO

[Mr.Brightside]

i got a k20 with 6 speed gearbox under 5k LOL, he has 10k to run with from his previous posts. and k24 would be even cheaper, b series is a waste of time/money IMO

K-Series isn't everyones cup of tea so to speak, a B18C7 with bolt ons and tune can still be very fun.