lol look at what your quoting, the mugen rr, a civic with a major tuning company backing it, doing major work, is still slower than a STOCK 97 nsx r and a STOCK 01 nsx type s.

Yes it is fast, by all means, but like all designs has its limitations. And you keep going on about this whole stiffer chassis thing, at the end of the day when its a race car they all have a weld in cage, and there once again comes limitations to how stiff, and you will see where the suspension is flawed and limited.

If you want to bring tuning company cars into it, ummm spoons street legal k20 ek9 runns 1:02s and so did their b16b ek9 with 1800cc stroker and that was way back in 97'