It's funny how people always look for the lowest priced ad and assume thats gona be the market value of that model and always compare the immaculate ones to the cheap shit 1 they saw earlier.

seriously if your really after a dc5r get a clean, immaculate, example thats been properly taken care of (prepare to pay atleast 20k for this but in the end its worth it) if you cant justify the price difference for a showroom condition dc5r to a 12k bomb then stay away it's probably not for you

people who try to cut costs and get bargains generally end up getting cool bills when their "Bargain's" clutch goes or motor dies, immaculate dc2r,dc5r can still go for 20k+ this is what you should aim for else don't bother with the R