Quote Originally Posted by sivic
the cost to get a vtir engine up to par with a type r is going to outweigh the extra cost of just doing a type r swap in the first place.
then there is reliability to think about as well.
really, just look at the differences (cams, valve train, lightweight pistons, polished head, drivetrain etc.. and then tuning) and calculate the cost to do all this to a vtir engine
i agree

if you think about it logically the 3 or so grand difference will be burnt buying stuff that you would probably want to put on your vtir motor anyway, like a type r gearbox costs around 2g these days. that leaves about 1000 with that, the stuff you will keep will probably cost more than that anyway. Like balanced crank, and ported head, That all costs money. If you were going to do a build, you would need to do these things anyway to get a worthwhile NA project happening, and you could always sell the stuff you scrap like rods, pistons, standard camshafts and springs (probably not for big $$$ but still better than a kick in the ass). PPL will buy that stuff just because its type R, where as the vtir gear is no better than a paperweight in resale value. Anyway, I think you should get the Type R front cut, the vtir front cut looks like false economy in my eyes.