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 Originally Posted by adis
Hondata is 1250.
Greddy is 500+600 tune so pricewise its the same.
With hondata, do you lose vtc or cruise control? And hondata come
Pre tuned doesnt it? Also read few people had probles using them so
I dont know...
I mean Hondata reflashed TSX ECU, not Hondata K-Pro - it's two different things. Read cearfuly all words. You can get used TSX reflashed ECU by Hondata for 500 in the USA. Only CEL light with EVAP error which you just ignore and all works like with OEM ECU.
Much more problems with Greddy, believe me !!!
Last edited by vaikis; 29-12-2011 at 06:01 PM.
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most piggy backs are useless for full tunning solution.
kpro by far the best reflash second best that are currently on offer.
Currently my mechanic is working with doug to test flashpro i will be the gunie pig and may also be testing the heel toe auto unit. Not sure how these will compare to kpro but will be shown soon
If you hold on to your socks i would suggest that many tuning systems may be coming
Last edited by marquee; 29-12-2011 at 07:26 PM.
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ur a goose..........
u have my number, just ring me and ask...
ill hook u up
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flashpro can work only with TSX ECU, it's not possible that it work with our OEM ECU's as there is no full CAN-BUS support (same for TSX 04-06 ). I had a chat with Doug long time ago. If we swap TSX ECU from 07-08 it should be possible that Flashpro willl work, but it should be tested - EVAP errors can be disabled by flashpro as there is such options.
Heeltoe unit would be something like piggy back (but with tuning options only for TSX) as it would require harness which conects unit to oem ECU.
Last edited by vaikis; 29-12-2011 at 08:08 PM.
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 Originally Posted by vaikis
flashpro can work only with TSX ECU, it's not possible that it work with our OEM ECU's as there is no full CAN-BUS support (same for TSX 04-06 ). I had a chat with Doug long time ago. If we swap TSX ECU from 07-08 it should be possible that Flashpro willl work, but it should be tested - EVAP errors can be disabled by flashpro as there is such options.
Heeltoe unit would be something like piggy back (but with tuning options only for TSX) as it would require harness which conects unit to oem ECU.
Yer i know. We will be getting a tsx ecu
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 Originally Posted by marquee
Yer i know. We will be getting a tsx ecu
I think that with K-Pro it's possible to gain a little bit more power then with FlashPro. What I don't like in FlashPro is that only 5 VTC settings available: 0, 10, 20, 30, 40 or 0, 15, 30, 40, 50 degrees, in K-Pro you can have 6 like: 0, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 - so it has 4 tables more in total.
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 Originally Posted by vaikis
I mean Hondata reflashed TSX ECU, not Hondata K-Pro - it's two different things. Read cearfuly all words. You can get used TSX reflashed ECU by Hondata for 500 in the USA. Only CEL light with EVAP error which you just ignore and all works like with OEM ECU.
Much more problems with Greddy, believe me !!!
Not just EVAP mate. You get 2 cel codes, EVAP and fuel tank pressure. Hondatech/Jtune found that out when they were trying to adapt the Hondata reflash for the Accord Euro.
And it's $400 there abouts, not $500. BUT there is an Australian tuner that had adapted the Hondata reflash for the AUDM ecu. Jtune is their name, they charge $1250 for an Australian "Hondata" reflash.
Incidently, some iceland dude had the Hondata reflash done at SEMA back in 2005, with a Euro spec Accord (same spec as AuDM except dashboard plastics), he had Hondata turn those 2 CELs off, he been running it since. Seems that EUDM and AUDM ecu are VERy similar.
I agree with e-manage, tuners prefer it cause it's easy to work on, not that it's a better solution.
I think that with K-Pro it's possible to gain a little bit more power then with FlashPro. What I don't like in FlashPro is that only 5 VTC settings available: 0, 10, 20, 30, 40 or 0, 15, 30, 40, 50 degrees, in K-Pro you can have 6 like: 0, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 - so it has 4 tables more in total.
Ktuned kpro? Cause Hondata discontinued their TSX dual harness years ago.
Last edited by Fredoops; 29-12-2011 at 10:14 PM.
2003 CL9 5AT *ECU REFLASHED*
CT-E Icebox|Ralco RZ pulleys|K&N filter|DC Header|250cell Cat|Cusco Tower & H Brace| H.Drive Coilovers | Rays RE30 18x8.5 | S/S Brakelines | Rigid Collars
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 Originally Posted by Fredoops
Not just EVAP mate. You get 2 cel codes, EVAP and fuel tank pressure. Hondatech/Jtune found that out when they were trying to adapt the Hondata reflash for the Accord Euro.
And it's $400 there abouts, not $500.
Incidentlt, some iceland dude had the Hondata reflash done at SEMA back in 2005, with a Euro spec Accord (same spec as AuDM except dashboard plastics), he had Hondata turn those 2 CELs off, he been running it since. Seems that EUDM and AUDM ecu are VERy similar.
I agree with e-manage, tuners prefer it cause it's easy to work on, not that it's a better solution.
Ktuned kpro? Cause Hondata discontinued their TSX dual harness years ago.
not K-tuned K-Pro, but K-tuned dual harness for CL9 + K-Pro. A lot of talk about engine managment and nobody reads all lines .... Fuel tank pressure is from EVAP errors pool, I know all error codes as did scan with Honda Diagnostic tool.
Last edited by vaikis; 29-12-2011 at 10:19 PM.
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 Originally Posted by vaikis
not K-tuned K-Pro, but K-tuned dual harness for CL9 + K-Pro. A lot of talk about engine managment and nobody reads all lines .... Fuel tank pressure is from EVAP errors pool, I know all error codes as did scan with Honda Diagnostic tool.
So it IS the k-tuned stuff.
On an interesting note, since the ecu Is getting "hotwired" anyway and you lose cruise/ VSA or both, why not use an AEM EMS 1040 or v2??? Does the same thing.
Hell, why stop there? Why not a motec m84 or one of their other race ecu's for that matter?
Last edited by Fredoops; 29-12-2011 at 10:31 PM.
2003 CL9 5AT *ECU REFLASHED*
CT-E Icebox|Ralco RZ pulleys|K&N filter|DC Header|250cell Cat|Cusco Tower & H Brace| H.Drive Coilovers | Rays RE30 18x8.5 | S/S Brakelines | Rigid Collars
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 Originally Posted by Fredoops
So it IS the k-tuned stuff.
On an interesting note, since the ecu Is getting "hotwired" anyway and you lose cruise/ VSA or both, why not use an AEM EMS 1040 or v2??? Does the same thing.
Hell, why stop there? Why not a motec m84 or one of their other race ecu's for that matter?
K-Pro is more friendly to tune, a lot of good E-Tuners which makes full tune from logs and it costs only 200 USD. For AEM or motec tune you will pay much more.... also who will make plug and play harness for you ???
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AEM (which only cost 20% more than kpro) uses the same ktuned harness. So does the motec
2003 CL9 5AT *ECU REFLASHED*
CT-E Icebox|Ralco RZ pulleys|K&N filter|DC Header|250cell Cat|Cusco Tower & H Brace| H.Drive Coilovers | Rays RE30 18x8.5 | S/S Brakelines | Rigid Collars
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 Originally Posted by Fredoops
AEM (which only cost 20% more than kpro) uses the same ktuned harness. So does the motec
then compare features and tune price.
For Adis best solution would be TSX ECU reflashed by Hondata, it's my suggestion if no any mods like aftermarket camshafts, VTC 50 deg and etc. would be done on car
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