RTA Bushings - OEM vs Hardrace

[bennjamin]

my local parts dealer quoted $97 incl GST each =S

I bought them after being having Es poly inserts for awhile for about $67 each off the top
Of my head. Remember price differs at Honda dealers.

But Ill let you in on a little secret. $60 ish more for 10 years use isn't something to worry about.
If these were $150 each I'd still buy them.


This is the reason these stupid poly replacement bushes exist....for
Tightasses that hear " STIFFER THAN OEM " and " CHEAPER THAN OEM".

Surely it must be better ? Rofl

[anzai]

im staying away from poly ES stuff for reasons outlined on the 2nd page...

if HR is 150% harder than oem, its harsher but better steering response?

[mocchi]

im staying away from poly ES stuff for reasons outlined on the 2nd page...

if HR is 150% harder than oem, its harsher but better steering response?

you wont be able to really feel the difference man. esp with coilovers / low profile tires.
flip a coin for oem/hardrace and be done with it
since theyre all rubber and cost the same

[bennjamin]

im staying away from poly ES stuff for reasons outlined on the 2nd page...

if HR is 150% harder than oem, its harsher but better steering response?

Hmm. Harder isnt proven to be better. I would think maybe the material is denser but will absorb more force and will deteriote.
Put it this way - hardrace is copy parts , not grossly engineered / designed like MUGEN or J's RACING oem replacements. Only time will tell if these hardrace bushes last.

I worry that yet again , you lot are falling for this "hardrace y0 150% harder = BETTER". Rofl. That , and its alot cheaper than OEM parts.

[mocchi]

Hmm. Harder isnt proven to be better. I would think maybe the material is denser but will absorb more force and will deteriote.
Put it this way - hardrace is copy parts , not grossly engineered / designed like MUGEN or J's RACING oem replacements. Only time will tell if these hardrace bushes last.

I worry that yet again , you lot are falling for this "hardrace y0 150% harder = BETTER". Rofl. That , and its alot cheaper than OEM parts.

oem is actually cheaper if he was to buy from US.

[bennjamin]

oem is actually cheaper if he was to buy from US.

well there u go. The man says it how it is.







All you kids dont drive race cars.

Im only going to say one more thing

OEM > all other replacement bushes.

[anzai]

I worry that yet again , you lot are falling for this "hardrace y0 150% harder = BETTER". Rofl. That , and its alot cheaper than OEM parts.

yeh ur right lolol

where do you guys buy parts from the US?

ive been trying to get something from oemacuraparts.com and they dont seem to want my business

i was looking at ebay but there not that much cheaper too

[senna]

I'm not going to say that anyone is wrong or that the product i have posted above is 100% correct for everyone's use, however I disagree that the longevity is compromised just because it is poly. I personally haven't seen an issue with this bush sliding on its post, however after around 60+ kits sold I don't see every application after real world use.

In our workshop we have used all forms of bushes, Nolathane (fail - too hard), Noltec (extreme fail - no consistency, crumbles) and Superthane (too hard also) and we settled with the Super Pro brand because they do things correctly and develop their bushes and also the alloy and steel shell bonding process is much more advanced which reduces the risk of separation.

In alot of cases Hardened rubber or OEM is a good option, polyurethane has its place in the performance market too.

[mocchi]

yeh ur right lolol

where do you guys buy parts from the US?

ive been trying to get something from oemacuraparts.com and they dont seem to want my business

i was looking at ebay but there not that much cheaper too

go to k20a.org and pm bodyman/cjm/rbnsjh, they work at autofair honda.
good blokes.

[anzai]

btw os, honda dealer only stock 52385-sr3-000 apparently

[senna]

All you kids dont drive race cars.

This i definitely agree with.

[bennjamin]

I'm not going to say that anyone is wrong or that the product i have posted above is 100% correct for everyone's use, however I disagree that the longevity is compromised just because it is poly. I personally haven't seen an issue with this bush sliding on its post, however after around 60+ kits sold I don't see every application after real world use.

In our workshop we have used all forms of bushes, Nolathane (fail - too hard), Noltec (extreme fail - no consistency, crumbles) and Superthane (too hard also) and we settled with the Super Pro brand because they do things correctly and develop their bushes and also the alloy and steel shell bonding process is much more advanced which reduces the risk of separation.

In alot of cases Hardened rubber or OEM is a good option, polyurethane has its place in the performance market too.

I can see by that design you displayed , that it has come some way - the slight arch grooves would obviously prevent some of the distortion etc. Good to see they (poly bush designers/sellers) are trying to keep it in the market.
Much better than the ES soild lug I used some time ago.
Can i ask , do these designs you state use some form of lubrication internally (on the lug) or sit dry with grooves etc ?