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    Smile remote engine start

    Hi all, just wondering whether its safe to buy an ebay aftermarket alarm system and install it on my dc5s? the only reason why i want to do this, is because i want remote engine start. and possibly a turbo timer, to warm/cool the car, without the need to be in it, to on/off the engine. The specific item i am lookin at is manufactured by steelmate automotive.
    I dont want to spend $$ on a systems like viper, but i just want to get opinions or advice from people that have heard of these ebay alarm systems or have them installed on their vehicles. thanks

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    I wouldn't bother with a no-brand alarm system, nothing is worse than being stranded from a dodgy immobiliser.

    Just get a viper, they're not expensive and can be had for easily $200 landed.

    The remote start will give you a long range as well ~1.6km

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    why do you need to warm up and cool down the engine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bludger View Post
    why do you need to warm up and cool down the engine?
    Ever just wanted to finish work for the day, walk out to your car and have it's A/C cold and it fully warmed up for a thrashing from the word go?
    That's why.

    Cops don't like the Remote Start/Turbo Timer side of things.
    In NSW i'm fairly certain it's illegal to have your car running whilst unattended (Key in the ignition still counts)
    Possibly for a theft or safety concern?

    Just make sure they're installed in a hard to see place (Ashtrays, under the dash, glovebox etc) and you'll be right.
    It's not 4x4 status, think of it as "Winter Mode".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jccck View Post
    Ever just wanted to finish work for the day, walk out to your car and have it's A/C cold and it fully warmed up for a thrashing from the word go?
    That's why.

    Cops don't like the Remote Start/Turbo Timer side of things.
    In NSW i'm fairly certain it's illegal to have your car running whilst unattended (Key in the ignition still counts)
    Possibly for a theft or safety concern?

    Just make sure they're installed in a hard to see place (Ashtrays, under the dash, glovebox etc) and you'll be right.
    if you leave your car idling to achieve running temp before driving, you will do ten times more damage than driving off from the get go.

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    the reason why i need to warm up the engine is, i usually leave to work early in the morning, when temperatures are sub 14 degrees. To walk into the garage at 4 in the morning, in the freezing cold to warm up the car, is becoming a pain, hence why i want remote start. The turbo timer is mainly for days, where ive given the car a little grief, and cannot be bothered waiting for it to cool down, once its at home or elsewhere. this is the actual alarm I am after http://www.speedibizaustralia.com.au...rm-systm/53139 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jccck View Post
    Ever just wanted to finish work for the day, walk out to your car and have it's A/C cold and it fully warmed up for a thrashing from the word go?
    That's why.

    Cops don't like the Remote Start/Turbo Timer side of things.
    In NSW i'm fairly certain it's illegal to have your car running whilst unattended (Key in the ignition still counts)
    Possibly for a theft or safety concern?

    Just make sure they're installed in a hard to see place (Ashtrays, under the dash, glovebox etc) and you'll be right.
    Letting it idle for ages from a cold start is bad. The oil needs to circulate and it can't do that very quickly when it's at low RPM. This is why they suggest driving gently

    your gearbox will not like it when you thrash it when it's cold. this also why they suggest driving gently
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    An idling engine is not operating at peak temperature, resulting in incomplete fuel combustion.
    Fuel residues can condense on cylinder wall, contaminate oil and damage engine component.
    With more engine idling these residues tend to deposit on spark plugs. The resulting plugs fouling can increase fuel consumption.
    Excessive idling can also cause water to condense in the vehicle's exhaust. This can lead to corrosion and reduce the life of the exhaust system.

    Residue from iling leads to costly damage and decreases the car’s gas mileage. Idling is bad for the engine pretty much

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    will fowl your plugs.
    will gum up valve train (overly rich zorst gasses mixing with oil, gumming it up.)

    @ most, 1 minute warm up.

    Driving will warm it up and get it to operational temp asap.

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    From an old post of mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by trism View Post
    warming a car up is the worse thing you can do, for a few reasons, if you have a search youll find them all, but here is a quick run down

    1. idling causes fuel wash. the excess fuel in the cylinder not being burnt literally washes the oil off the cylinder walls, removing lubrication
    2. emissions control devices, specifically the catalytic convertor work when heated up. idling the car isnt going to heat it up, so for the 5 minutes its warming up all the toxic nastys are spewing out the exhaust.
    3. youre wasting fuel warming up. the ecu automatically supplies more fuel when cold to prevent stalling. thus wasting petrol (and causing fuel wash)
    4. you sit there for 5 mins warming the engine up thinking youre sweet, then pull out and give it a hit thinking its all fine. well its not. where does the power go through before it hits the wheels? the gearbox/rest of the drivetrain. you hit it, and your 'box is cold still and you cause wear on the drivetrain.


    thats a basic run down on why its not necessary. simply get in, start the car up and drive away, taking it easy until the temp reaches operating temperature, that way everything warms up at the same time and you dont damage anything
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    when i say warm up, i dont leave it running for 10 minutes. maximum is 2- 3 mins and i do keep revs below 3k rpm for about 10 minutes or more. so i dont think what has been posted above, applies to me? back to the original question, its not the remote start im worried about. its the alarm system. will it cause any problems to the car? sorry im a noob when it comes to electronics!

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    To warm up your car just drive it and keep it to about 2,500 RPM.

    Idling is bad. Rev'ing too much when cold it bad.


    Remote start is nothing but a wank factor. Might impress the odd girl or surprise somebody walking past your car when you start it from the restaurant. Otherwise just baller-points and not worth it. Doesn't always start properly anyway - if it's very cold where you live there's a good change the remote start won't even crank the engine long enough for it to start properly half the time.

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