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  1. #13
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    i personally find the beeping annoying

    it's bad enough that you have to put up with the seatbelt warning

    learn to fricken park is the nicest way i could put it
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  2. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirIIx
    i personally find the beeping annoying

    it's bad enough that you have to put up with the seatbelt warning

    learn to fricken park is the nicest way i could put it
    That's not really such a great statement. There's a good few little ones that each year seemingly from nowhere manage to warp themselves into the path of reversing vehicles, with pretty catastrophic results. Whilst a reversing camera is a better protection, sensors provide a cheaper yet somewhat effective alternative.

    The rear bit of the euro is pretty tall compared to other vehicles, such as the Civic - to make a comparison I'm qualified for. This tallness provides for reduced rear view, with a greater blind angle. Sensors as such do make sense from a safety point of view.

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    I can accept that reasoning aratahu. I used to drive a Chrysler Neon which also had a high back because of the way the car was sloped, and the more modern mercedez C200K which is also similar when it comes to the style of the rear. I'm used to the high backs so i can make a fair assessment when parking.

    Unlike driving a holden station wagon which is my father's car, it's a damn large and wide car - that i can vouch for and parking isn't much easier, but if you're reversing it's clear and easy because there is no blind spot as to how far the tail might stick out.

    We used to also own an older 1990's mercedez, E180, that thing was like a box but was easy to park because you could see the rear.

    I have a spoiler on my car - and it's not only for cosmetics, it is used as an aid to assist with assessing parking. When you park, you try to utilise the environment around you eg. reflective windows, the reflection of your taillights against a wall; to help you park. Even while parallel parking, if the person infront of you (which you use as a guide) has parked say away from the kerb (which does happen) and sometimes the car is more wide/narrow than yours, it will also affect your judgement.

    I can accept where people are coming from when they say they want sensors or camera's and i've seen these 'gadgets' in cars and they do look cool. Well.. the camera is cool - the beepers are annoying but then you could also say it's as useless as satellite navigation in it's infancy. It's cool, great concept but it'll either work.. or won't work (and im speaking strictly about cars with sat/gps nav).

    I could say confidently i'd be a lot faster, pulling over, looking up the map in a few seconds and be on my way. I don't wanna mess around typing/punching in an address and then let the system work out where i am and try to tell me where to go. God forbid, my shortcuts are faster

    Conclusion to this all, whatever is more comfortable with anyone. But I don't like to be too reliable on driving aids. I'm a confident person, I'd like to think other people are. Aids will not make you a better driver, you have to learn that from experience, and be more aware.

    I've given up on scratches and dents in my car, perhaps if these people were better at parking and had more respect it might prevent damaging other people's properties. So i can't see how they would care anymore about their own property.

    Even with these aids, I still think *bumping dodgem style* into someone is still going to happen because the person might not even be able to understand the technology - it's beeping faster for a reason! or.. you have a camera.. look into it..

    just my 2 cents
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    VirIIx,

    Im getting them for my missus, shes 4 foot nothing and its hard enough for me to see over the back, let alone sitting lower. Ive never ever hit anything in a car park etc in my entire life. BUT its pays to be careful. Also, next to my unit is a house full of kids out the front so I want to take some precautions. In addition to this my current car looks ok with a spoiler, and it assists in parking but I dont like the look of it on the sleek Euro.

    I am going to get some kind of GPS , we got lost going to sign up for the car in sydney for 2 hours fighting over maps. Im looking now at the best portable system for car and on foot.

    Now has anyone used this taurus system?

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    Thats one of the main reasons why it'll be good for the sensors; i have heaps of kids in my neighbourhood too and i just reverse like nothing outta my driveway

    Would a 6 sensor LCD parking sensor justify $120 guys ?

    So honda comes with 2 rear ones, how much did they cost ?

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    Thanks aratahu any info would be great

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    I don't have reverse sensors, but even if I did, I would check the rear for any sign of life first before reversing out. I don't want to get complacent with any technological assistance.

    BTW, shop window reflections are your best friend when parking.
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    so i'd say reversing CCD camera is a better option
    anyway, just my experience, dealers do not install sensors! even if you are them for sensors as an option, they call someone to installed on site for them! and normally they charge over 400 bux for that option....
    i've got my sensors off ebay, (6 sensor kit with a display on dashboard) and it costed me 250 all up...
    so shop around and find some electrician to intall for you~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntzu
    VirIIx,
    I am going to get some kind of GPS , we got lost going to sign up for the car in sydney for 2 hours fighting over maps. Im looking now at the best portable system for car and on foot.

    Now has anyone used this taurus system?

    I have the Co-pilot 5.0 on my PocketPC with Bluetooth GPS receiver. Works great! But again, the only thing I dont like is my HP Pocket PC has Micro$oft Windows mobile 2003 O/S, which is not reliable enough.

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    Hi guys,

    If you are that desperate to get reverse sensors installed and you are in Sydney area, contact the seller of the below item for real cheap kits ($55 for a kit of 4 sensors and display), i reckon high quality too. Go and pick it up, they are located in Botany area I think. Mind you I have no connection with this company just in just you would wonder

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....tem=4545287783

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    To be honest, I for one wouldn't put anything on such a slick bar on the Euro though. Why do you want to damage (4 round holes) your car in the first place for the sake of protecting your car from "potential" damages down the track? I wonder...

    I did a search a while back though, there is an invisible parking system available actually. Instead of ultrasonic based, this is installed behind/inside the bumperbar and utilises electromagnetic field to pick up objects, and no more blind spots from sensors to sensors. Go here and have a look http://www.bumpercare.com/

    I tried to enquire about their product, but unfortunately I havent heard back since April. Maybe you guys can give it a try and let me know?

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    The amount you pay for the sensors, might as well get a reverse camera and a Liliput screen... Looks more stylish too LOL!
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