ok thanks guys. i am actually going to get the dc2 vtir i think. but i still cant get over the looks of the em1. i love it too. haha. but i will make up my mind in time. thank you soo much for your help again. oh btw i drove my mates bb6 vtir today and it was unbelievable. it was great. it was an auto though thats the downside for me. but i used the semi-auto on it and its not that bad. i dont know if its me, it felt like it had a slow acceleration. maybe cause its semi auto? i was nervous driving it though. just being careful cause its not my car. cheers