Well, that's not very good news. It really does sound that these units come from some backyard Chinese manufacturer. You would think that with the extra couple of thousand dollars that MY11 Ody owners had to fork over for the privilege of integrated SatNav that we would at least get a quality item. I wonder if a small claims court proceeding or class action suit would help us recover some of that premium due to the fact that I for one have been left in the lurch quite a few times relying on the SatNav only for it to die just before crucial direction changes. Is anyone at Honda listening?