Get new rims first or get coilovers?

[EKVTIR-T]

I won't be trying them to see if this happens even if all of OzHonda buys them




Each to their own as they say

[euRo_noob]

o_o this turned into a massive debate.

Didn't mean to cause it lol. I just didn't know BC were a copy cat brand. Last years I just heard they were pretty decent and it was a choice between Tein and BC. I thought both brands were equal but I guess they're not.

Point is, I thought BC's were good. I didn't know they were a 'crappy brand'.

[senna]

BC copied the buddy club design when the manufacturing went to Taiwan. They use inferior components for seals and bearings. The damper is generally one size fits all too.

[EKVTIR-T]

BC copied the buddy club design when the manufacturing went to Taiwan. They use inferior components for seals and bearings. The damper is generally one size fits all too.

Is Buddy Club made by Bor-Chuann or some other taiwanese factory?

[senna]

Now you see how deep the rabbit hole really goes...

I have looked at so many coilovers, they all run the same core units. I believe buddy club still has their own design and valving development though

[Fredoops]

o_o this turned into a massive debate.

Didn't mean to cause it lol. I just didn't know BC were a copy cat brand. Last years I just heard they were pretty decent and it was a choice between Tein and BC. I thought both brands were equal but I guess they're not.

Point is, I thought BC's were good. I didn't know they were a 'crappy brand'.

Rota wheels known to crack or snap upon driving.

So's Enkei RPF1's.... Emo Cai's....


THIS is what a good wheel should do upon *OH FUCJK* moments.

[MingZai]

I had to laugh at

Thats like saying you bought the top of the range GreatWall car.Its still disposable crap

And have you had your experience?

This is exactly what I'm talking about... My mate spent over 3 grand on his K&W Suspension, I have HKS on my Evo 7 RS, Teins Flex on the old Evo but the ride quality on the BC is still as good.

Disposable crap... having been on the track over 6 times and everything not one single problem with the BC's.

Maybe in the past they had a bad batch or two but now you see nothing but good comments apart from the odd one or two.

I won't be trying them to see if this happens even if all of OzHonda buys them




Each to their own as they say

You can find a broken product for any kind of product in the world. There's always got to be a bad egg in the batch.

o_o this turned into a massive debate.

Didn't mean to cause it lol. I just didn't know BC were a copy cat brand. Last years I just heard they were pretty decent and it was a choice between Tein and BC. I thought both brands were equal but I guess they're not.

Point is, I thought BC's were good. I didn't know they were a 'crappy brand'.

Neither did I, but Tein would always be higher then BC imho.

BC copied the buddy club design when the manufacturing went to Taiwan. They use inferior components for seals and bearings. The damper is generally one size fits all too.

That's good to know, you learn something new every day . But arn't all suspension now days, spoon, J's Racing, Teins similar if not the same design.

So's Enkei RPF1's.... Emo Cai's....


THIS is what a good wheel should do upon *OH FUCJK* moments.

+1 Rota's will always be crap....

[Fredoops]

...But arn't all suspension now days, spoon, J's Racing, Teins similar if not the same design.

By your logic, all rims should be the same, its just a metal circle with a few bloody spokes.

Look those coils may look all the same to you, doesn't mean they are the same design, a coilover is sooo much more complicated than a bloody rim, and when you are paying for a 2500-3000 H&R or KW coilover, you are paying for their design and R&D costs.

Since you work in a autoshop you should know better no?

+1 Rota's will always be crap....

I'm sorry your logic fails me again. (ps: The pics I shown are Geniune rays and Work CR-CAI)

Let me get this straight:
Company A: rips off other company's *complex* mechanical and exterior design, got a name that confuses people with a JDM brand, also makes ripoff wheels, Taiwanese = Good company
Company B: rips off other company's *simple* exterior design, doesn't have a "JDM" inspired name. Only makes replica wheels. Indonesian = *ALWAYS* crap

[senna]

The one thing i will say for higher end coilovers is the range of adjustment that they can work at.

In my experience the lower end stuff is only good at a certain damping level - the valving is there to suit the spring rate, not necessarily the chassis set-up of the car with a specific spring rate designed to suit the chassis. Commonly you will find that the spring rate is specced to simply hold the car up and not let the shock bottom out. This is a high possibility on these coilovers since the body is so short there is only a small amount of travel, so if the spring rate is too low there is only a small poor quality bump stop as a token gesture of self preservation.

Higher end coilovers are designed to compliment the chassis setup on the car by matching spring rates to continue the dynamic, be it understeer or oversteer, just more controlled and responsive. The damper is then tuned to suit that spring rate while the adjustment increases the action of the damper and when its done right there is a large range with definite steps between the settings. Bilstein coilovers are probably the best at this for a street car. They have 10 settings and soft is touring comfort while hard is race track ready.

I honestly wish i had a demo car in every state - could open so many eyes to what real high quality suspension should be. Harder is not always better!

End diatribe....

[TRaNz]

I won't be trying them to see if this happens even if all of OzHonda buys them




Each to their own as they say

Oh mint, they released the new 3 piece coilovers......................LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL OLOLOLOL

[pitiek]

By your logic, all rims should be the same, its just a metal circle with a few bloody spokes.

Look those coils may look all the same to you, doesn't mean they are the same design, a coilover is sooo much more complicated than a bloody rim, and when you are paying for a 2500-3000 H&R or KW coilover, you are paying for their design and R&D costs.

Since you work in a autoshop you should know better no?


I'm sorry your logic fails me again. (ps: The pics I shown are Geniune rays and Work CR-CAI)

Let me get this straight:
Company A: rips off other company's *complex* mechanical and exterior design, got a name that confuses people with a JDM brand, also makes ripoff wheels, Taiwanese = Good company
Company B: rips off other company's *simple* exterior design, doesn't have a "JDM" inspired name. Only makes replica wheels. Indonesian = *ALWAYS* crap

Aren't they made in the Philippines?

http://www.rotawheels.com/aboutus.shtml

[Fredoops]

Aren't they made in the Philippines?

http://www.rotawheels.com/aboutus.shtml

Philly ur right. I have it stuck in my head with indo for some reason.