Lowering my car

[Jccck]

Correct me if i'm wrong; But isn't a 'Coilover' defined as Shock/Strut with the Coil Spring placed overtop?
Meaning that 'Coilovers' are infact standard?
People seem to refer to 'Adjustable Coilovers' as just 'Coilovers' all the time.. Which seems misleading to me.

Inb4 Senna!

[kristrifo]

try go for a shock and spring combo from pedders? reasonally priced, cant go wrong imo

i paid $450 for my springs including install

next step for me is compressing the front springs about half an inch and adding pedders shocks

[senna]

Lol...seems i'm getting quite a reputation around here....kinda embarrassing, haha

If it is a street car, my "best" set-up to recommend is Koni Yellows with a Ground Control kit. Height adjustment, good spring rates and the shocks can soak up most of the bumps our crappy australian roads can throw at you.

There are plenty of threads about this already - have a bit of a search in the technical sections and you will find that as much as i can bang on about the benefits of setting up suspension correctly, most people that are young or inexperienced with different types of cars will just get whatever is cheaper or most convenient option for them at the time.

Think of it this way - whats the point of making your daily car uncomfortable and awkward to drive 90% of the time just so you can enjoy a smooth strip of tarmac for 20mins on the odd weekend when you find time to go on a cruise?

I'm still trying to find time to get a front swaybar and fit it to my CXi EK daily, once thats on i'll be happy to take anyone for a ride so they can see how a different approach can give you an excellent result...

[dougie_504]

Lol...seems i'm getting quite a reputation around here....kinda embarrassing, haha

If it is a street car, my "best" set-up to recommend is Koni Yellows with a Ground Control kit. Height adjustment, good spring rates and the shocks can soak up most of the bumps our crappy australian roads can throw at you.

There are plenty of threads about this already - have a bit of a search in the technical sections and you will find that as much as i can bang on about the benefits of setting up suspension correctly, most people that are young or inexperienced with different types of cars will just get whatever is cheaper or most convenient option for them at the time.

Think of it this way - whats the point of making your daily car uncomfortable and awkward to drive 90% of the time just so you can enjoy a smooth strip of tarmac for 20mins on the odd weekend when you find time to go on a cruise?

I'm still trying to find time to get a front swaybar and fit it to my CXi EK daily, once thats on i'll be happy to take anyone for a ride so they can see how a different approach can give you an excellent result...

If I had my time again I'd just get a larger RSB (maybe 18mm) or maybe the ITR 22mm + SFB instead of the coilover setup I have.

Less roll but also comfy on bumps. Sigh. It's a lifestyle...

[senna]

Its all about balance and focusing on what the car is primarily used for - so many people set up a street car like a race car for no benefit at all!

[dougie_504]

Yeah I guess it depends on how you drive too. I use my EH9 for daily driving but TBH I tend to corner quite hard a lot and I love the coilovers 90% of the time lol.

senna what size RSB would you recommend for DD/upgrade from OEM 14mm?

[bennjamin]

Out of all the suspension I have installed or modded - probably 80% have been "adjustable" coilovers - and even the cheaper End of the market people have been greatly impressed regardless of the brand.
As long as they are dual perch adjustable and the spring rate remaIns constant !
I personally tell people to avoid shocks and spring combos - they are never low or stiff enough to please the average hard-Parker :0)

I personally upgrade swaybars and caster kits on my current and previous cars.

Btw dougie , search dude ! For your eh9? Get a ASR brace and dc2r rear swaybar

[curtis265]

moderator fight!

[dougie_504]

lol curtis

Ben I already have an ITR 22mm RSB, just no SFB to support it. I'll buy one later when I feel like throwing money at my DD (just got a mortgage).

I'm just wondering if senna, who works in the suspension industry, would recommend any other size as being ideal for a daily driven car (maybe something between 14mm and 22mm). Obviously a larger RSB will make the car handle better but it can also be dangerous in the wet because the rear can kick out a lot easier.

[DreadAngel]

Out of all the suspension I have installed or modded - probably 80% have been "adjustable" coilovers - and even the cheaper End of the market people have been greatly impressed regardless of the brand.
As long as they are dual perch adjustable and the spring rate remaIns constant !
I personally tell people to avoid shocks and spring combos - they are never low or stiff enough to please the average hard-Parker :0)

I personally upgrade swaybars and caster kits on my current and previous cars.

Btw dougie , search dude ! For your eh9? Get a ASR brace and dc2r rear swaybar

That's usually because they haven't tried a proper shock & spring setup and have the misconception crushing Gs + crashy ride + bump happy steering = Performance... =P

Remember my old old EG? Koni Yellow + KG/mm, lower than most coilover kit can go HAHAHA

[bennjamin]

lol curtis

Ben I already have an ITR 22mm RSB, just no SFB to support it. I'll buy one later when I feel like throwing money at my DD (just got a mortgage).

I'm just wondering if senna, who works in the suspension industry, would recommend any other size as being ideal for a daily driven car (maybe something between 14mm and 22mm). Obviously a larger RSB will make the car handle better but it can also be dangerous in the wet because the rear can kick out a lot easier.

What is the 22mm RSB mounted on ? Consider an ASR brace - it really is the best option out there for EG/DC and EK subframes.
Also consider a DC2R front swaybar (or alternative branded but same size , solid bar) for a front swaybar upgraded.
This will definitely aid in your handling and bring it back to more neutral and less oversteer. It will help make the car handle more like a DC2R (ie balanced)
Wait Im not directly in the suspension industry so take this and all opinions with a grain of salt

That's usually because they haven't tried a proper shock & spring setup and have the misconception crushing Gs + crashy ride + bump happy steering = Performance... =P

Remember my old old EG? Koni Yellow + KG/mm, lower than most coilover kit can go HAHAH

Dude its nothing to do with performance. Kids just want to go low and adjust it to their liking. Fact of life

[senna]

Ben, I'm not sure if you are having a shot at me or not...

lol curtis

Ben I already have an ITR 22mm RSB, just no SFB to support it. I'll buy one later when I feel like throwing money at my DD (just got a mortgage).

I'm just wondering if senna, who works in the suspension industry, would recommend any other size as being ideal for a daily driven car (maybe something between 14mm and 22mm). Obviously a larger RSB will make the car handle better but it can also be dangerous in the wet because the rear can kick out a lot easier.

I only run a 15mm bar from an EM1 on my EK. 18mm would be ok with higher rates. I think 22mm is too big on a car with spring rates above 6kg. Track use with sticky tyres no probs though