comparing CU2 and CL9

[ExpressCoffee]

Did you look at CL9's at all?
and
Did you buy yours brand new?

[I CU2]

Did you look at CL9's at all?
and
Did you buy yours brand new?

Nope, as a kid I liked the CL9 when it first came out but I'm the type of person that wants the latest model of everything so never really looked at the CL9 when purchasing.

I saw a parked CU2 in the car park and I was just like, I want that as a first car.

I didn't buy mine brand new, I purchased it with 35k km on it at the start of last year for quite a nice price (it would have probably been lower than some CL9 equivalents with the same km's at the time).

Take a look at Euronoobs Euro, he bought his CU2 when he first got his P's and look at what it has become:

http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821480

That's tasteful modding. I like my cars clean and subtle.

It really depends on what you like. If you like the modded up 90's civics then you'd probably like modded up CL9's as there are more kits of this variety available for it.

EDIT: Read the beginning of this thread, CL9 owners switched to CU2 and CL9 owners stayed with CL9's and the switchers said that the CU2 was in every way better with a sportier handling and a more aggressive look while CL9 owners said they still preferred their sleek styling and handling.

It's all about your personal preference, don't let anyone tell you what you'll like. Be happy with the car you chose.

[ExpressCoffee]

Nope, as a kid I liked the CL9 when it first came out but I'm the type of person that wants the latest model of everything so never really looked at the CL9 when purchasing.

I saw a parked CU2 in the car park and I was just like, I want that as a first car.

I didn't buy mine brand new, I purchased it with 35k km on it at the start of last year for quite a nice price (it would have probably been lower than some CL9 equivalents with the same km's at the time).

Take a look at Euronoobs Euro, he bought his CU2 when he first got his P's and look at what it has become:

http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=821480

That's tasteful modding. I like my cars clean and subtle.

It really depends on what you like. If you like the modded up 90's civics then you'd probably like modded up CL9's as there are more kits of this variety available for it.

EDIT: Read the beginning of this thread, CL9 owners switched to CU2 and CL9 owners stayed with CL9's and the switchers said that the CU2 was in every way better with a sportier handling and a more aggressive look while CL9 owners said they still preferred their sleek styling and handling.

It's all about your personal preference, don't let anyone tell you what you'll like. Be happy with the car you chose.

He has a really nice euro! Not a big fan of exterior carbon wrapping but it's not bad.
Yeah when I was at school some kids parents had a black lux euro and I've always wanted one since then. As I saw the new Euros I was really liking the redesign as well but I like both and had trouble deciding..

I like to have the latest of any thing I usually go for but there is only one CU2 that is cheap while the rest is a small difference to my original price range of 17k.

In terms of power, I know the CU2 has 8 more kW, but which one feels faster? And is faster?

[ChaosMaster]

He has a really nice euro! Not a big fan of exterior carbon wrapping but it's not bad.
Yeah when I was at school some kids parents had a black lux euro and I've always wanted one since then. As I saw the new Euros I was really liking the redesign as well but I like both and had trouble deciding..

I like to have the latest of any thing I usually go for but there is only one CU2 that is cheap while the rest is a small difference to my original price range of 17k.

In terms of power, I know the CU2 has 8 more kW, but which one feels faster? And is faster?

If your looking for fast, Honda is not for you. Nothing out of Honda's range in recent years is anywhere near fast. Fast enough is good enough. The K24 that all Euro's run is the torquiest engine Honda makes, and yet I'm happy to say torque is the one thing is lacks. But that's with all Honda engines, their designed to rev. If you're wondering why I'm talking about torque, it's cos torque matters low down, and KW matters at the high end. In theory, the CL9 should be faster, due to the sheer difference in weight (150kg give or take), while the CU2 basically has a retuned engine for better fuel econ. Those 8kw won't really matter much. The gearing is said to be shorter, which would improve the acceleration a bit, but would make it worse for long drives on FWYs. CU2 also has wider tyres which would contribute to better take off. In the end though, both will perform very similarly. So in the end, it's down to you.

Personally, I prefer the CL9. Then again, I prefer the older hondas over the new crap their bring out (the "new" Civic is basically a reshell of the 06 model, the CU2 gained 150kg while only getting a slightly retuned engine, the last Civic Type R was downgraded from it's predecssor in rear sus, gaining over 100kg yet only 1kw boost, etc). The CU2's interior is a very nice place to be in. A much nicer place than the CL9. And again, I prefer the CL9's sleeker styling.

My advice for you would be decide on your own. Both are excellent cars. Choose based of what you value more. Styling is a subjective thing. CU2 is def more Lux than the CL9. CL9 is closer to Honda's roots. If what you're after is speed and power though, look else where. I'm sure you could get a FalcoDore for similar money.

[antony]

Get the CU2,as its now way more modern than the CL9...although the CL9 STILL looks so good,as it was such a classic shape to start with.

[ExpressCoffee]

If your looking for fast, Honda is not for you. Nothing out of Honda's range in recent years is anywhere near fast. Fast enough is good enough. The K24 that all Euro's run is the torquiest engine Honda makes, and yet I'm happy to say torque is the one thing is lacks. But that's with all Honda engines, their designed to rev. If you're wondering why I'm talking about torque, it's cos torque matters low down, and KW matters at the high end. In theory, the CL9 should be faster, due to the sheer difference in weight (150kg give or take), while the CU2 basically has a retuned engine for better fuel econ. Those 8kw won't really matter much. The gearing is said to be shorter, which would improve the acceleration a bit, but would make it worse for long drives on FWYs. CU2 also has wider tyres which would contribute to better take off. In the end though, both will perform very similarly. So in the end, it's down to you.

Personally, I prefer the CL9. Then again, I prefer the older hondas over the new crap their bring out (the "new" Civic is basically a reshell of the 06 model, the CU2 gained 150kg while only getting a slightly retuned engine, the last Civic Type R was downgraded from it's predecssor in rear sus, gaining over 100kg yet only 1kw boost, etc). The CU2's interior is a very nice place to be in. A much nicer place than the CL9. And again, I prefer the CL9's sleeker styling.

My advice for you would be decide on your own. Both are excellent cars. Choose based of what you value more. Styling is a subjective thing. CU2 is def more Lux than the CL9. CL9 is closer to Honda's roots. If what you're after is speed and power though, look else where. I'm sure you could get a FalcoDore for similar money.

I meant as in Honda Fast
I know they're nowhere near the fastest things out there but I do enjoy driving them. And I find the interior of them to be really sleek among the jap cars.

I agree with your statement about modern day Hondas. They are going the very Eco friendly route.
I do love everything about the CU2 but I do love the styling of the CL9. Of course the interior and what not will be nicer but I think i have to think of what's in my price range. There's only one CU2 that's fairly cheap atm.


And please never tell me to look for a Holden or whatever... Ugh!

Cost wise is servicing them the same?

[Fredoops]

Cost wise is servicing them the same?

yep, cost a bomb to service (dealer) and a bomb for parts compared to other makes.

... just like most modern honda's

[kryptonite]

as already mentioned.

the Sports4 concept should have been the Accord Euro/TSX

http://world.honda.com/Tokyo2005/sports4/

look at the rubbish ILX they just released.

[ExpressCoffee]

Maybe I should just go get a DC2R.... Haha

[I CU2]

But the DC2 headroom and interior is so smallsss

[ExpressCoffee]

Yeah too much hassle with any repairs I'd think. Would want a newer car anyway

[ExpressCoffee]

Ok now I'm seriously considering the CU2 now.. I'm seeing it tomorrow and then seeing the CL9 on thursday.
Just a bit unsure of 100,000kms on it but being a new car, it should be fine? Also, are these built in Japan or Thailand?

PS: Can anyone link me to some Cu2 mod pages as I can't seem to find any?