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							Andy install the what... CAN... English please bro. 
 Also 06 tsx ecu... Thought it was 07-08.
 
 OK buy all the shit. Book Honda appointment for ecu swap. They will put the new ecu in and program my key. Whatever.
 Then u saif upload hondata calibration. Well that ****s me coz I have a Mac book. Won't be uploading anything. Once I get tsx ecu in I'll just find someone to tune it for me.
 
 Also this vTC gear.... I heard its a pretty big job to change the gear.... Is this true?
 
				
				
				
					
						Last edited by philipminge; 24-07-2013 at 10:39 PM.
					
					
				 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							To replace vtc it is timing chain off
						 
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		Kermit EGK20AWinton: 1:35.08
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							Has jhim got a white euro. If so I saw a YouTube clip. Was amazing. That's exactly what I want my car to do. Haha
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							And how much for u to do this bro? Lol
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							Andy, does jhim exist on ozhonda. Tried sending him a pm but no luck. Says name don't exist. Cheers
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	You need to swap and splice some wires that's linked to your ecu.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by philipminge   Andy install the what... CAN... English please bro. 
 
 
	Yes, but worth it.
		
			
			
				Also this vTC gear.... I heard its a pretty big job to change the gear.... Is this true?
			
		 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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	ok get more power with this Uni-chip and I send you a box of beer.  I tried this "crap" long time ago and won't use anymore.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Chernoby1   Hondata is "good" but far far from the best. The best thing about the pro is that its plug and play, everything ekse is average as phunk. 
				
				
				
					
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							The best are MoTeC and AEM units, but they cost $$$$
 MoTeC and AEM EMS systems can support extra sensors and has inbuilt processing power waayyyyyy beyond what hondata can throw at it. But they aren't the most user friendly systems.
 
 Face it, people use hondaa because they are easy to work with. hondata is the dummy camera compared to AEM and MoTeC which are professional DSLRs. To 99% of the people the dummy camera is sufficient.
 
 I personally prefer EPROM reflashing, instead of the "roundabout" way hondata do them to trick the ecu into the new codes.
 
 Bunch of folks in Russia had been flashing cl9s for a while now.
 
				
				
				
					
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	I agree that MoTeC and AEM is nice, but it's not so friendly when connecting all stuff. So for simple people there is less options.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Fredoops   The best are MoTeC and AEM units, but they cost $$$$
 I personally prefer EPROM reflashing, instead of the "roundabout" way hondata do them to trick the ecu into the new codes.
 
 Bunch of folks in Russia had been flashing cl9s for a while now.
 I know all these russian guys, a lot of them allready swapped TSX 07-08 ECU + FlashPro and made even more power. Some of them are tuned by me remotly. I even know 2 guys who are offerinf this EPROM reflashing. I saw how it's done and won't used that crap in my car !!!
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	You mean opening up the ecu and connect wires? That's how hondata reflash work too.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by vaikis   I know all these russian guys, a lot of them allready swapped TSX 07-08 ECU + FlashPro and made even more power. Some of them are tuned by me remotly. I even know 2 guys who are offerinf this EPROM reflashing. I saw how it's done and won't used that crap in my car !!! 
 Ktuner wound be different tho, that's like a "chipping" of the factory ecu
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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	there is two options how create EPROM, only 1 option of them is better from other. There is no need to open ECU if you want to reflash, it's much easier if you have right equipment.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Fredoops   You mean opening up the ecu and connect wires? That's how hondata reflash work too.
 Ktuner wound be different tho, that's like a "chipping" of the factory ecu
 Ktuner is nice option, but still not available for us
   
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
							
						
				
					
						
							
	Pretty sure hed be talking about the Controller Area Network (CAN) adapter. As i have no expirience with flashpro setup, id guess you need a way to communicate with the ECU so you can re-program it.. the CAN adapter would let you do this.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by philipminge   Andy install the what... CAN... English please bro.  
 
 
	I refuse to use piggy back systems. I was talking about complete stand alone systems. Getting more power isnt the important part, getting reliable power is and from my experience realllllly hard with piggy back style setup.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by vaikis   ok get more power with this Uni-chip and I send you a box of beer.  I tried this "crap" long time ago and won't use anymore. 
 While i might be biased, the adaptronic range of ECU's provide a good value point. The E420d is $990, but is NOT plug and play. 99% sure you could use all of the stock sensors but you would still need to wire the thing up yourself.
 
 
 
	Not too keen to agree on the AEM ecus. Their older stuff was a bit shonky (imo), cant comment on new stuff as. The processing power of the ecu is not really relevant anymore. A new 'smartphone' has a faster processor. Its the software that matters most nowadays...
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Fredoops   The best are MoTeC and AEM units, but they cost $$$$
 MoTeC and AEM EMS systems can support extra sensors and has inbuilt processing power waayyyyyy beyond what hondata can throw at it. But they aren't the most user friendly systems.
 
 And i find motec stuff way easier to use than my s300 btw.
 
 
 
	I dislike the idea that people wont do something better because its 'harder'. Sure i can understand cost/time/ect... but cmon... youre modifying your car to be what you want, effort is implied isnt it? (unless youre only after the e-reps)
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Fredoops   Face it, people use hondaa because they are easy to work with. hondata is the dummy camera compared to AEM and MoTeC which are professional DSLRs. To 99% of the people the dummy camera is sufficient. 
 
 
	Most of the sensory stuff is pretty straight forward to learn... cant believe people wouldnt want to know how the hell their cars worked if they were keen to modify them
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by vaikis   I agree that MoTeC and AEM is nice, but it's not so friendly when connecting all stuff. So for simple people there is less options. 
 
 
	I dont see how different ecus would make / more less power really... come down to the tune, no?
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by vaikis   I know all these russian guys, a lot of them allready swapped TSX 07-08 ECU + FlashPro and made even more power. Some of them are tuned by me remotly. I even know 2 guys who are offerinf this EPROM reflashing. I saw how it's done and won't used that crap in my car !!! 
 And i passionately HATEEEEEE remote tuning. If youre talking about loading a premade map, thats not so bad (dont see why you'd not tune the thing properly though), but ive seen someone actually attempt to tune remotely and jeebus it failed.
 
 
 
	Connecting wires would probably do the exact same thng as the CAN adapter....
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Fredoops   You mean opening up the ecu and connect wires? That's how hondata reflash work too.
 Ktuner wound be different tho, that's like a "chipping" of the factory ecu
 
 Chipping is wayyy more risky (assuming they are desoldering a chip and putting something in its place)
 
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
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