Quote Originally Posted by Chernoby1 View Post

not quite sure how 180kw / 700kg is considered slow, but if you say so.


Pfft the whole idea of a probationary license is a total load of Sh*t. The driving test should assess whether a person is able to make the correct desicions or not.
If people feel that there needs to be some restrictions on who can drive what cars, then a seperate license should be implimented for certain 'performance car' ranges. This shoudl apply to EVERYONE.
Want to drive a VE GTS? Go get HP1 class license so you can.

Different rules for different groups of people is DISCRIMINATION. I do not care at all how long things have been this way, and i will say that this is one of the most stupid things in Australian laws.
180KW/700KG is not slow, but the amount of time/money needed to obtain those figures is mind boggling. Yes I've driven a cap (kayfours) and yes I've been in his car even with turbo/intercooler/injector/ecu upgrade, still slow compared to a bog standard wrx or silvia, I think he is still only pulling dyno figures in the 50s. Not denying it's a fun car (around corners) but in pure speed, it's not fast (unless you, as quoted, achieve that power output).

Secondly, the road is not a race track, the purpose of probationary licensing is to teach people how to drive, even if you are a good driver (being able to control a car in a range of conditions) doesn't mean you drive in a manner which is safe to the community, i.e. abiding by road rules etc.

If you have the need to drive an overly powerful car, you are more than welcome to at any track event, where you can legally go as fast as you like in a safe controlled environment.

No, it's not discrimination, all people are subjected to the same rules. 1 year of red Ps, 3 years of green Ps then full license (in vic). The idea behind probation is to create maturity in the driver so they don't wrap themselves around a tree with their ego and reduce their chances of having an accident/violation, yes there are F*KWITs out there, but you can never have a perfect sample. I don't see any issues with that, if you feel the need to drive a faster car, trackdays are always at hand, the road is not a speedway.