Rollcage! - whatz the go?

[furiou5]

while were on the topic of roll cages, are you legaly alowed to drive round with them in you car.

Cos i want one of those racing harness' and my mate said they have to anchored to a bar going across the back. I think im waffling shit

[SINISTR]

I read 'somewhere' on the CAMS website (fk that site is hard to navigate) that if you have a Harness installed it has to be certified by the road technical section... that would be for race purposes.

But in reality - i think something like that should be done for street use anyway - for the drivers/passengers own safety anyway...

[online]

The $2500 to $3000 roll cages are Chromoly cages and not mild steel like the bond roll bars ones. If you just want something basic that will do the job then the cheaper $800 to $1200 cage will do fine.. Just remember you get what you pay for.

[SINISTR]

i think this is a great pic to describe the number of 'points' for roll cages (found at CUSCO.CO.JP)

[SINISTR]

The $2500 to $3000 roll cages are Chromoly cages and not mild steel like the bond roll bars ones. If you just want something basic that will do the job then the cheaper $800 to $1200 cage will do fine.. Just remember you get what you pay for.

yeah - same as racing seats

I think it depends on the application. In normal street conditions cars aren't equipped with any rollcages - so adding even just the basic rollcage would help safety marginally.

For competition motorkhana, hill climbs, classic rally etc - a more advanced rollcage system would need to be used - more in the vicinity of $1500-$2000.

For propper race application as does 'ONLINE CRX' - a fully done rollcage is needed as it wouldn't pass scrutineering - especially at 9second passes

LOVE the ONLINE GEN3 CRX )))) keep it up!!!

[Civic Type R]

TEAM VTEChnique 'only' needs about $3,000 to bring a chassis to Competition safety spec.. well that's for Rally Competition anyway..

WTF

[Civic Type R]

Mikey, speak to JME, [EXPLICIT] from PerthWRX and PPCC about this.
He has done this with his WRX and knows everything about what you are intending to do.

[SINISTR]

Sweet! thanks dude!!!

[Captiva_Blue]

Cos i want one of those racing harness' and my mate said they have to anchored to a bar going across the back. I think im waffling shit

To put a 4+ point harness in a car you need to anchor the ends of the shoulder straps somewhere near the base of the rear seat and have a bar mounted btwn the B pillars for the shoulder straps to run over instead of just having them running from their mounting point through the seat back. If this isn't done you will more than likely break both your collar bones in even a moderate crash. JFYI, it's not legal to use a racing harness when driving on the street..

[Captiva_Blue]

Are welded in cages legal for street use or only bolt in ones. I've heard that cages are only legal for the street if they don't have side intrusion beams, are bolt in type and have 6 points or less (somthing about restricting rear vision with the cross brace like the one added in the 7 point cage in SINISTR's post..)

[VT3C]

According to that CUSCO diagram, the cage I was quoted on was a 6-point.

WTF

We are toying with the idea of building a Rally car for use in WA state Rally Trials. For the class, to be CAMS compliant in order to compete, we need about $3000 to cover saftey essentials such as fire-extinguishers, fixed race seats, roll-cage, helmets, nav-computer etc.

That figure, as I said, would cover the safety requirements but would obviously not address suspension, motor, tyres and rims etc. nor the initial purchase price of the car and licensing requirements.

ONLINE: our needs were only to meet CAMS Rally requirements, obviously sub-10 second Drag cars would need something a lot more serious... we cant afford to build a sub 10-second drag car but if we could, $3000 for a serious cage would not be an issue I imagine.

[snowman95]

keep hondas on the track

also with race harnesses, i would be careful that they are being used properly. I have read stories with people hitting their head on the steering wheel after not having their harness not properly fitted (no airbags too) and another guy snapping their neck (no helmet, was on the street).