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 Originally Posted by tom_son
FYI ive got rid of the wheels.
You have made an excellent decision 
What you got planned for the next set?
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I think the main issue you had was your sidewall was too short. Heaps of guys in the toyota scene run 185 60 14 on 9" rims and dont have issues. Not recommending it or anything. 45 profile sidewalls are too stiff to stretch.
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 Originally Posted by newpaddy3
lmao at oxers bfs ^^^^
funny the lengths people goto to look cool, to the point where you turn into a pyromaniac on the side of the road making a potato cannon out of a wheel and tyre.
If these morons at very least used a bead blaster to mount that stupid tyre on that stupid rim IN THE BEGINNING they definately wouldn't have been on the side of the road there spraying flammable liquids on pieces of rubber.
Once your sidewalls are stretched beyond straight, its not safe, full stop.
Has anyone seen how most modern tyres are made? The rubber in the sidewall is VERY different in composition to the tread and the steel reinforcement from outside in changes completely.
Stretched tyres might look cool, but they should only be fitted to be rolled on, not to be cornered or accelerated hard on.
All you need is for the outside lip of your rim (that isn't protected by the RIM PROTECTOR anymore because your tyres are stretched like a b1tch) to merely roll over any stone that is the size of a golf ball or bigger and one or more of the following things will happen:
(I'm not even mentioning hitting a pothole or bump too hard... because just doing lightly that will squeeze air out of the tyre for a split second. The bigger the rim is the more chance these things will be happening.)
- Bulge in the sidewall due to the stone separating the woven steel reinforcement
- Split in the sidewall which will cause the whole sidewall to separate from the bead like on that gay blue toyota
- Rim will press the stone into the road and give you a nice buckle and if your rims are sh1t enough they will crack instead and piss air out while you look around at other motorists in disbelief while they laugh at you and your Wakaba leaf decal on your rear 1/4 window.

IF YOU NEED TO PUT UNDERSIZED AND UNDER LOAD RATED TYRES ON YOUR CAR TO GET THEM TO FIT;
MODIFYING CARS... YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG KILL YOURSELF while I pass you sideways in 3rd gear with 315's, barely -1 and one hand out the window giving you the finger because my car actually handles without the risk of the tyres falling off.
It is very easy to have a lot of fun in life, especially with cars if you choose to exercise a little common sense from time to time.
P.S. In response to people speaking about road rules and why speed limits are the way they are and don't change according to conditions etc.
Don't be naive, the government doesn't care how fast you go or what you do to your car... they just don't want to pay to be removing dead bodies off the road all day when they could be setting imaginary "safety" parameters and cashing in on it when people don't abide exactly by them and get caught doing so.
Last edited by nickk; 25-10-2013 at 12:25 PM.
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the speeding esxample is just that, an example. Not at all what i think :P
And there is one BIG problem with your argument. You are saying saying modifying for asthetics is "wrong". I know a few people who are much much much more interested in modifying a car with little/no interest in Driving it. IE, driving is not fun for them but they enjoy making cars 'look tough' (subjective term dont go spaz at it 'looking stupid').
What would be wrong is doing these sorts of things and expecting to be able to push the car hard, or even drive it normally.
The other thing that would be rong is to assume that using the tyres in this way will NOT lead to the above problems.... again, i know people who are willing to live with replacing tyres over a small amount of distance covered... why? Because they dont really cover much/any distance in them at all.
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 Originally Posted by newpaddy3
If I want to believe unicorns exist, they exist. Simple as that.
Just replace the word "unicorns" with "god" and this post would sum up religion in a nutshell.
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Dude.... I can put a dress on and wear it in public out for "aesthetic reasons" doesn't mean it's not horribly wrong.
This is probably the best analogy I can come up with right now...
Putting stretched tyres on your car is like refining your own 80 octane fuel and then using it for a major disadvantage over ready to go 98oct from the pump purely for bragging rights.
It might not necessarily be a dangerous thing to do under certain conditions with a responsible and cluey person, but it doesn't mean that it is not a completely idiotic thing to do none the less.
So... stretched tyres...
Do they look better though? For the purpose of aesthetics? That is completely a matter of opinion, which everyone is entitled to. Who am I or you to judge what looks good and what doesn't look good? That obviously comes down to the owner.
Do they make a car handle better? No
Do they make a car more comfortable? No
Do they help your car stop quicker? No
Do they help you increase your chances of avoiding a collision? No
So they aren't not safer? No
Well they must last longer? No
Well if they don't last longer they must cheaper to maintain/replace? Obviously not.
How about a QUALITY upgrade of the wheel and tyre combination for a car
Do they make a car handle better? Yes
Do they make a car more comfortable? Yes
Do they help your car stop quicker? Yes
Do they help you increase your chances of avoiding a collision? Yes
So, properly matched wheels and tyres to a vehicle increases it's safety? Yes
Well they must last longer too now? Obviously.
Now that they are lasting longer, they must be more expensive to maintain or replace right? No. Unless you are getting free ling longs and are changing them like jocks.
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Guise please
Did Justin Fox run stretched tyres and you lot want to be cool too or something ?
Why are people defending running stretched tyres ? Lol
If you aren't a African American with a Chevy from the 90's on hydraulics - you simply look like a douche and are endangering your life. Fact is your car will handle shit , tyres will not last long and in any given situation on the road you are asking for trouble.
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 Originally Posted by nickk
Dude.... I can put a dress on and wear it in public out for "aesthetic reasons" doesn't mean it's not horribly wrong....
//rest of message
I don't agree at all. If someone wants to do something and are aware of the consequences/issues with it, then i think they should be able to do it. If i consider it a stupid thing to do is irrelevant.
Benji, im not defending running stretched tyres, im defending ones freedom to do so ( I still do think its not a good idea).
If someone wants to do a dive off a bridge from 500m up, ill just ask them if they understand they could die if things go wrong and that its likely to go wrong... after that, im happy to let them jump. Their choice is their choice.
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You are right that people have freedom to choose to do so , but in this instance the act is illegal and generally not accepted.
I don't think you should defend peoples right to choose in this situation lol.
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 Originally Posted by Chernoby1
I don't agree at all. If someone wants to do something and are aware of the consequences/issues with it, then i think they should be able to do it. If i consider it a stupid thing to do is irrelevant.
Benji, im not defending running stretched tyres, im defending ones freedom to do so ( I still do think its not a good idea).
If someone wants to do a dive off a bridge from 500m up, ill just ask them if they understand they could die if things go wrong and that its likely to go wrong... after that, im happy to let them jump. Their choice is their choice.
But their freedom to do so shouldn't be on public roads where they're potentially endangering everyone/everything around them.
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 Originally Posted by bennjamin
You are right that people have freedom to choose to do so , but in this instance the act is illegal and generally not accepted.
I don't think you should defend peoples right to choose in this situation lol.
 Originally Posted by lolmclol
But their freedom to do so shouldn't be on public roads where they're potentially endangering everyone/everything around them.
See, i dont care what the law/popluar opinion says, i care that the person is free to do the things he wishes. I have no problems with punishment, but i dont like the idea of prevention.... the effectiveness doesnt really matter much to me. Clearly im idealistic nad dont put as much value on human life as most others. (Dont wnat people to die, but i fail to see how 'life' matters so have difficulty understanding why its important to NOT die... if that makes sense)
In reference to this thread, i have on problems with people saying that running stretched tyres is stupid. I have problems with you calling someone stupid for running stretched tyres.
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 Originally Posted by bennjamin
You are right that people have freedom to choose to do so , but in this instance the act is illegal and generally not accepted.
I don't think you should defend peoples right to choose in this situation lol.
 Originally Posted by lolmclol
But their freedom to do so shouldn't be on public roads where they're potentially endangering everyone/everything around them.
See, i dont care what the law/popluar opinion says, i care that the person is free to do the things he wishes. I have no problems with punishment, but i dont like the idea of prevention.... the effectiveness doesnt really matter much to me. Clearly im idealistic nad dont put as much value on human life as most others. (Dont wnat people to die, but i fail to see how 'life' matters so have difficulty understanding why its important to NOT die... if that makes sense)
In reference to this thread, i have on problems with people saying that running stretched tyres is stupid. I have problems with you calling someone stupid for running stretched tyres.
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