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    Question Help with my tires: Civic 2008 Sports

    I could use the Civic section, but I think my thread fits this section better...

    I have only done just over 30,000 km after almost 6 years since new. Now I have probably 1-2 mm left on almost all 4 of them before hitting the bar.

    Ok, here comes the nooby question:

    1. Do I replace it at Honda or shop around?

    2. All 4 corners have been quite evenly worn, so would need all 4 replaced at the same time.

    Original tires are Michelin(Pilot Preceda) 215/45 R17 91V, should I go by these again or any other 17's, more handling would be nice, budget is around $250 each (car is still factory, no mods yet).

    3. Any other related informational comments would be great.

    thank you all.

    Additional info on factory tires(no idea what they mean, sounds good to me):
    ` Treadwear 240
    ` Traction AA
    ` Temperature A
    ` Tread Plies: 2 polyestef + 2 steel + 1 polyamide
    ` Sidwall plies: 2 polyestef

    Additional question on break pads and rotations:

    Just realised yesterday, rear break pads have been fully worn will need immidiate replacement, still lots left in the front, how come???? I haven't rotate my tires for probably 2 years or so, but tires have been quite evenly worn, why break pads are so different from front to rear?
    Last edited by gwang222; 23-02-2014 at 09:37 PM. Reason: Additional questions on brakes

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    Rear brake pads wear faster than front, that's normal.
    I would not buy tires at Honda dealers. just go to a known shop around and get your self a good set of tires. Toyo, yokhama, bridgestone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmetro24 View Post
    Rear brake pads wear faster than front, that's normal.
    it is? I thought the brake bias was toward the front, so the fronts would wear down quicker.

    Either way, sounds like the front brake pads have been replaced numerous times, where you will find the rear brake pads have not (they may even be original 2008 pads).

    For the tyres, get whatever suits your driving. If you do track days whatever, get grippy/soft tyres.
    If you drive just normal street, get quiet (med/soft compound) fuel saving tyres.

    And the info on the tyres, all you need to know about is : 215/45 R17 91V. 91V is the load rating/speed rating and is important because you can't get tyres that are load rated/speed rated under this.

    Best thing to do - go to Bridgestone / any other tyre shop and ask them what they have.

    I got some Bridgestone Ecopia PZ-X for my Euro and they are nice and quiet.
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    are you after cheap and grippy? or quietness and tread wear too? PM taleb tyres on here

    as for brakes just replace what's worn.. although 30000k's is quite low for them to wear out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiblet View Post
    it is? I thought the brake bias was toward the front, so the fronts would wear down quicker.

    Either way, sounds like the front brake pads have been replaced numerous times, where you will find the rear brake pads have not (they may even be original 2008 pads).

    For the tyres, get whatever suits your driving. If you do track days whatever, get grippy/soft tyres.
    If you drive just normal street, get quiet (med/soft compound) fuel saving tyres.

    And the info on the tyres, all you need to know about is : 215/45 R17 91V. 91V is the load rating/speed rating and is important because you can't get tyres that are load rated/speed rated under this.

    Best thing to do - go to Bridgestone / any other tyre shop and ask them what they have.

    I got some Bridgestone Ecopia PZ-X for my Euro and they are nice and quiet.
    I dont do tracks, but noise is not really a concern for me, would like something for more control.

    How do I know if it's soft/med/hard?

    I have never changed my break pads since bought new, haven't rotate tyres for about 2 years now, will pay more attention later.

    Will go honda for a service, should I change all pads or once a pair, since my front pads are relatively ok.

    thanks again.

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    I used to drive like somebody for the early years, so I'm quite happy that it lasted for 6 years by now.

    Not sure how much will charge me for a pair of pads, but seems it's not something I'm able to DIY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmetro24 View Post
    Rear brake pads wear faster than front, that's normal.
    I would not buy tires at Honda dealers. just go to a known shop around and get your self a good set of tires. Toyo, yokhama, bridgestone.
    what about Michelin, I have no idea the difference between these brands, but since my factory ones are Michelin, so I kinda leaning over the same brand, but this might not be necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmetro24 View Post
    Rear brake pads wear faster than front, that's normal.
    I would not buy tires at Honda dealers. just go to a known shop around and get your self a good set of tires. Toyo, yokhama, bridgestone.
    Ummmm, unless you handbrake a ton, brake bias is almost always to the front... This leads to a more stable and predictable reaction from the car under brakes. Hence why front will wear out faster than rear...

    Definitely don't get Honda dealers to change tires for you, go get that done yourself. Make sure you shop around as tire shops in different areas will give a different price.

    Does tyre lifespan matter too much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwang222 View Post
    what about Michelin, I have no idea the difference between these brands, but since my factory ones are Michelin, so I kinda leaning over the same brand, but this might not be necessary?
    Michelin 'tend' to be pricier than the other brands in the same class. All tires in general can be very hit and miss, even in the same model of tire, a 15" and a 17" can be different to do locality of casting. If you have variation even within the same model, you can imagine how its difficult to compare, it also comes down to personal preference and tolerances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadAngel View Post
    Ummmm, unless you handbrake a ton, brake bias is almost always to the front... This leads to a more stable and predictable reaction from the car under brakes. Hence why front will wear out faster than rear...

    Definitely don't get Honda dealers to change tires for you, go get that done yourself. Make sure you shop around as tire shops in different areas will give a different price.

    Does tyre lifespan matter too much?
    rear brake pads are normally done around 40,000km and the front pads are done around 70,000km

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    Dunno, I seem to use up more front pads... Rear pads thinner hence used up faster? unsure =S
    Toda Racing AU | Shen * Speed Works | Jesse Streeter

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    Rear brakes are smaller on the FD

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