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					17-03-2014 06:21 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Wondering knowledgeable peoples top 3 picks for b20vtec (b20b8, standard bore, b16 head, cams/springs etc) for pistons and rods, any I can buy locally or better off getting elsewhere, cheers
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					18-03-2014 07:42 AM
				
			
			
				
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							Dave send me a PM and we can talk about a few things
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					18-03-2014 10:01 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  stndrd
					 
				 
				Dave send me a PM and we can talk about a few things 
			
		 
	 
 You sound really desperate. 
 
Not selling enough PLM and penrite?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					09-04-2014 09:57 AM
				
			
			
				
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							Hey guys, 
 
just after information/experiences/thoughts on using this piston/rod combo on my b20vtec, are the JE pistons decent? 
 
What other pistons (looking at 84.5mm) do you recommend, with about a 11.5.1 compression ratio
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					09-04-2014 10:07 AM
				
			
			
				
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							yeah, stick with quality US parts and you cant go wrong, 84.5 is good, 11.5 is OK, but 12.5 is better, 
 
but you must match your cams, head porting and CR to get the best outcome. 
 
the quality of machinist you use is also very important to the end result.  
 
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					09-04-2014 11:00 AM
				
			
			
				
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							yeah, I was just thiking 12.5 might be a little extreme for a daily 
 
who is the general go to guy for b20vtec machining and the like
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					09-04-2014 12:05 PM
				
			
			
				
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							12.5:1 = free power. 
 
as long as you can get 98 octane, have a very good engine tuner and support package (like good injectors, fuel pump(s), ignition system, ECU, etc) you'll be fine. 
 
my engine tuner organised my machining, so i cant say...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					09-04-2014 01:16 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Running 12.7 on 98. 
 
Daily driver. 1.8 though
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					09-04-2014 03:22 PM
				
			
			
				
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							True. I'll look into it, I don't want to have to upgrade too much
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					10-04-2014 06:05 AM
				
			
			
				
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							bigger bore/stroke also means that you need less of a dome to achieve the same c/r compared to a b18 or even more b16. huge wedges all up in the chamber can mess with cylinder filling and flame propagation.  now im not saying more c/r is bad, or that huge wedges make things worse   just its good to know what affect changing something has. much like something that helps the engine breath at high rpm, can hurt it down low...    the beauty of c/r is its effect on performance is not rpm dependent, unlike alot of engine components.   
 
if you dont want to spend too much, rs machines are hugely popular cast pistons. and you can get close to 12:1 with a p72 head and some head and block milling.  half the price of forgies and give you a nice bump in comp whilst keeping it safe for the street.  
 
 
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					10-04-2014 01:55 PM
				
			
			
				
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							yeah I was looking into the rs machines too 
 
im thinking of kelfords, but not sure, eventually I do want cams, yes
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					09-05-2014 11:26 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  .Dave
					 
				 
				yeah I was looking into the rs machines too 
 
im thinking of kelfords, but not sure, eventually I do want cams, yes 
			
		 
	 
 Stay away from Kelford Cams, I was originally looking to use them but found the support and delivery times as slack. 
I went with Toda C2 for my build and got very good results.  
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