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Big help. Thanks a lot Baby Face. So looks like rear camber arms, extended ball joints and new bushings are my next step. Thanks a lot guys
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Ben makes a good point. Sway bars and a subframe brace will make it a lot stiffer.
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Some people spend heaps of money trying to get shit coilovers to handle better ie. Swaybars etc, its all a band aid fix masking the true problem.
Buy good quality suspension like shockworks and check over/replace your bushes.
Last edited by dove grey 64; 11-07-2014 at 08:39 PM.
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Originally Posted by dove grey 64
Some people spend heaps of money trying to get shit coilovers to handle better ie. Swaybars etc, its all a band aid fix masking the true problem.
Buy good quality suspension like shockworks and check over/replace your bushes.
You stated swaybars as a band aid fix - and then mentioned shockworks are a quality suspension ?
Im not a professional race car driver but i do know for a fact that upgraded front and rear swaybars are far more influential / effective on a road car than any type of coilover. There is debate whether hardcore coilover setups VS big swaybars are the way to go on true race cars though.
Shockworks are a brand made in Korea and resold / touched up in Australia , they are not high quality. Not poor just not built for longevity like most german or high end japanese brands
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Originally Posted by dove grey 64
Some people spend heaps of money trying to get shit coilovers to handle better ie. Swaybars etc, its all a band aid fix masking the true problem.
Buy good quality suspension like shockworks and check over/replace your bushes.
You're correct on crap coilovers [This can be budget or name brand ones] but Swaybars are NOT a band aid fix.
Originally Posted by bennjamin
You stated swaybars as a band aid fix - and then mentioned shockworks are a quality suspension ?
Im not a professional race car driver but i do know for a fact that upgraded front and rear swaybars are far more influential / effective on a road car than any type of coilover. There is debate whether hardcore coilover setups VS big swaybars are the way to go on true race cars though.
Shockworks are a brand made in Korea and resold / touched up in Australia , they are not high quality. Not poor just not built for longevity like most german or high end japanese brands
Correct...
Shocks & Springs/Coilovers are one part of the handling equation. Swaybars/Anti-Roll Bars, Bushes, Tyres and Alignment/Geometry are the rest of the equation. Yes its possible to make your car 'tort' by using insanely stuff coilovers but the price you pay comes when your car is in adverse situations. We want the car to go fast but in a controlable and predictable manner. That's where the remainder of the equation helps us.
On the track, its the same thing, everything needs to be considered, any weak link will be exposed.
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Having done coilovers on both my cars but sway bars on only one of them I can comfortably say I will only be doing sway bars next time maybe will a bit of lowering. The sway bars at least give you that roll resistance you want but without the discomforts affiliated with coilovers like going over bumps etc.
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Originally Posted by dougie_504
Having done coilovers on both my cars but sway bars on only one of them I can comfortably say I will only be doing sway bars next time maybe will a bit of lowering. The sway bars at least give you that roll resistance you want but without the discomforts affiliated with coilovers like going over bumps etc.
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so if you put only coilover on stock dc2 then put only upgraded sways,which one will be faster on touge/track?
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Originally Posted by bennjamin
Shockworks are a brand made in Korea and resold / touched up in Australia
That's it. They are Korean NeoTech coilovers re-branded as Shockworks.
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Shockworks dampers are tuned and manufactured with OEM quality standards and testing requirements
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shockworks coilover are the best in market atm
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With our special rotational tires, it will allow you to drive very fast. - JK Tyre
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As above have stated. Yes shockworks are made in korea, by neotech which is a oem supplier manufacturer.
They are not touched up and resold with new stickers. Shockworks does all the drawings, tuning and valving here in Melbourne, builds the prototypes and then gets Korea to make them and send them back here.
That means for us we can get oem quality suspension at a reasonable price, to get the equivalent quality in another brand for example ohlins you would be paying over 6k.
You guys talk about the discomfort of stiff coilovers, you haven't driven on proper coilovers. I fitted shockworks to my wifes forester gt, which she uses to drive my 2 kids under 4yrs old around.
A properly tuned suspension with adequate valving and spring setup negates the need for aftermarket sway bars for fast road use. By all means wtac and wrc cars may need bigger sway bars but your fast road setup does not. Most drift guys remove their sway bars when using shockworks.
I dont work for shockworks, I just have 3 cars with their setups and recommend their setups when people are asking for advice because im really happy and impressed with what they offer and after sales support is top notch aswell.
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