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    Quote Originally Posted by dove grey 64 View Post
    Some people spend heaps of money trying to get shit coilovers to handle better ie. Swaybars etc, its all a band aid fix masking the true problem.
    Buy good quality suspension like shockworks and check over/replace your bushes.

    You stated swaybars as a band aid fix - and then mentioned shockworks are a quality suspension ?

    Im not a professional race car driver but i do know for a fact that upgraded front and rear swaybars are far more influential / effective on a road car than any type of coilover. There is debate whether hardcore coilover setups VS big swaybars are the way to go on true race cars though.

    Shockworks are a brand made in Korea and resold / touched up in Australia , they are not high quality. Not poor just not built for longevity like most german or high end japanese brands

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    Quote Originally Posted by dove grey 64 View Post
    Some people spend heaps of money trying to get shit coilovers to handle better ie. Swaybars etc, its all a band aid fix masking the true problem.
    Buy good quality suspension like shockworks and check over/replace your bushes.
    You're correct on crap coilovers [This can be budget or name brand ones] but Swaybars are NOT a band aid fix.

    Quote Originally Posted by bennjamin View Post
    You stated swaybars as a band aid fix - and then mentioned shockworks are a quality suspension ?

    Im not a professional race car driver but i do know for a fact that upgraded front and rear swaybars are far more influential / effective on a road car than any type of coilover. There is debate whether hardcore coilover setups VS big swaybars are the way to go on true race cars though.

    Shockworks are a brand made in Korea and resold / touched up in Australia , they are not high quality. Not poor just not built for longevity like most german or high end japanese brands
    Correct...

    Shocks & Springs/Coilovers are one part of the handling equation. Swaybars/Anti-Roll Bars, Bushes, Tyres and Alignment/Geometry are the rest of the equation. Yes its possible to make your car 'tort' by using insanely stuff coilovers but the price you pay comes when your car is in adverse situations. We want the car to go fast but in a controlable and predictable manner. That's where the remainder of the equation helps us.

    On the track, its the same thing, everything needs to be considered, any weak link will be exposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennjamin View Post
    Shockworks are a brand made in Korea and resold / touched up in Australia
    That's it. They are Korean NeoTech coilovers re-branded as Shockworks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennjamin View Post
    You stated swaybars as a band aid fix - and then mentioned shockworks are a quality suspension ?

    Im not a professional race car driver but i do know for a fact that upgraded front and rear swaybars are far more influential / effective on a road car than any type of coilover. There is debate whether hardcore coilover setups VS big swaybars are the way to go on true race cars though.

    Shockworks are a brand made in Korea and resold / touched up in Australia , they are not high quality. Not poor just not built for longevity like most german or high end japanese brands
    Im not here to start beef but you said in a nutshell not built to last, there is a r34 that has shockworks in it for the last 4 years, daily driven up in the hills which is where their testing grounds are due to harsh road conditions, the coilovers have never been rebuilt.
    Ive had bilsteins, and friends of mine have had numerous greddy, hks and other japanese setups.
    Every one that has been for a drive in my cars ditches their setups and buys shockworks.

    Again not trying to start beef, Bennjamin if you are in melb I would like to take you for a drive

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    Also until you actually see the internals of damper don't go just writing it off because it's not from Japan or Germany. We spent over a year looking for a manufacturer that met our quality standards(dad coming from an OEM background and part of the warranty team was very particular about certain aspects of the damper). Chrome shaft finish, seal quality, piston and guide quality. If anyone is in Melbourne and feels like coming up for a drive to check out the workshop and what we do you're mor ethan welcome. Happy to organise a Honda group day if i get enough interest as well, i'll be campaigning the ED a lot.

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