Engine prices?

[RenzokukenJ]

178nm isn't a lot of talk lol

[bennjamin]

178nm isn't a lot of talk lol

M8 pls

Post up videos of egs with standard b20s smashing b18cr powered donks or GTFO

[Wanderer]

^^^ You'll have to do some serious digging. This is nearly 20 year old information now. Unfortunately, Honda-Tech has changed hands more than once, and their archives are practically nonexistent now. I'm not in the habit of carrying around old photos that I never took before I got my first digital camera, and I don't exactly have a build at the moment to demonstrate.

You will either have to do the math yourself, look for the information that you can find, or just accept that it's true and move on with your life. The alternative is that you stick your fingers in your ears and call me a liar. Either way, it doesn't affect me directly, and I am only here to share what I know. If you don't want it, that is not my problem.

I'm not your mate either, so do your mod thing and censor it up then.

Stock b20 vs c7, No it won't lol

Prove that it won't, when the rest of the Honda world, or what's left of it, knows that it will. I've seen it with my own two eyes when I was running that same B20 setup myself in 2002. Everything else being equal; the engine with more torque will always win. This is why B16's are not commonly swapped in the US anymore, because they are not worth the cost or the effort when you can just start out with the B20b and be even faster when you rebuild into a B20v... Unless going turbo, then the B18b block is preferred.

The LS/B20 crank is that much better than any of the other cranks in the B-series. It's the only crank worth having, if you are sticking with the B-series.

[bennjamin]

Sorry "mate" but the only time I have seen or heard of this is your posts above. Why you are strongly opinionated on this, I do not know. The b20 makes a fantastic setup turboed / vtec head or both we all know.

All I do know - is a b20b dead standard , or even lightly modified in a eg / LS or da seem to be doing consistent mid to high 14's and 15's at the 1/4 mile ( on YouTube). A dead standard b18 R motor setup in a eg will do mid to high 13's. That makes it....faster ? Don't get so worked up on this :0) have a merry Xmas.

[Wanderer]

Sorry "mate" but the only time I have seen or heard of this is your posts above. Why you are strongly opinionated on this, I do not know. The b20 makes a fantastic setup turboed / vtec head or both we all know.

All I do know - is a b20b dead standard , or even lightly modified in a eg / LS or da seem to be doing consistent mid to high 14's and 15's at the 1/4 mile ( on YouTube). A dead standard b18 R motor setup in a eg will do mid to high 13's. That makes it....faster ? Don't get so worked up on this :0) have a merry Xmas.

Where did I say a word about the B18c*R engines? The kid was asking about B16's, and I posted to save him trouble and a headache down the road of having to move on to a different car or block because B16's suck. I've had a B16 before, and even turbo'd it sucked in every aspect except reliability and fuel consumption. You have to rev them up to get the car to move out of it's own way.

Who's worked up? I posted one thing and everyone was all like "OMGPICORITDIDNTHAPPEN". I thought this was common knowledge already. HT has been around since 1999 after all. I'm an American, this is how we speak. Don't call me mate, please.

[mocchi]

Where did I say a word about the B18c*R engines? The kid was asking about B16's, and I posted to save him trouble and a headache down the road of having to move on to a different car or block because B16's suck. I've had a B16 before, and even turbo'd it sucked in every aspect except reliability and fuel consumption. You have to rev them up to get the car to move out of it's own way.

Who's worked up? I posted one thing and everyone was all like "OMGPICORITDIDNTHAPPEN". I thought this was common knowledge already. HT has been around since 1999 after all. I'm an American, this is how we speak. Don't call me mate, please.

do you know what a wild card is?

inb4pokemon

[Drifter995]

Where did I say a word about the B18c*R engines? The kid was asking about B16's, and I posted to save him trouble and a headache down the road of having to move on to a different car or block because B16's suck. I've had a B16 before, and even turbo'd it sucked in every aspect except reliability and fuel consumption. You have to rev them up to get the car to move out of it's own way.

Who's worked up? I posted one thing and everyone was all like "OMGPICORITDIDNTHAPPEN". I thought this was common knowledge already. HT has been around since 1999 after all. I'm an American, this is how we speak. Don't call me mate, please.

I believe it was around the time you said 'any b18c*' which includes the b18c7, which is the type r motor.

[bennjamin]

I believe it was around the time you said 'any b18c*' which includes the b18c7, which is the type r motor.

Yes. I believe and hope Wanderer misread my original post ? Or forgot.

[Hondarally]

Maaaate

Yes, he said any b18c* which includes c7 and cr.

Everything else being equal; the engine with more torque will always win

What else being equal? Same torque curve but one has higher peak than the other? Well that means that it's also making more power, so yes, it will be faster.

Please let's not turn this into another torque vs power thread (I thought that those died in the 1990's).

We aussies use the term "mate" as a salutation, for anyone from our best mate (or "Buddy" if you prefer), to our worst enemy. It's not discriminatory, so I don't see any need to be upset about it. No need to get offended by local colloquialisms.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

do you know what a wild card is?

inb4pokemon

Do you know what a wild card is?

Inb4mario

[RenzokukenJ]

M8 pls

Post up videos of egs with standard b20s smashing b18cr powered donks or GTFO

I meant in general, not within the Honda community hehe

[Vvvtec]

Where did I say a word about the B18c*R engines? The kid was asking about B16's, and I posted to save him trouble and a headache down the road of having to move on to a different car or block because B16's suck. I've had a B16 before, and even turbo'd it sucked in every aspect except reliability and fuel consumption. You have to rev them up to get the car to move out of it's own way.

Who's worked up? I posted one thing and everyone was all like "OMGPICORITDIDNTHAPPEN". I thought this was common knowledge already. HT has been around since 1999 after all. I'm an American, this is how we speak. Don't call me mate, please.

Sorry mate