DC2 VTiR stock suspension upgrade

[Shraka]

ohhhh, so sorry your majesty!

have a SEARCH n00b!

http://au.search.anzwers.yahoo.com/s...=37&search.y=6

Sorry to have upset your delicate mental balance. I'm gonna go stand over here now. Oh and thanks for providing usefull info this time. I've never actualy seen this anzwers site before.

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Thanks again lerroy.

[tinkerbell]

apology accepted

[kk_]

Cheers lerroy, that's what I thought re: airbag suspension. (And yes this is more like the kinda post I was expecting from my questions, cheers ).

Seems the rear swaybar is the way to go. I might just grab one of these and see if I even need lower suspension after that.

Any suggestions on swaybar brands, appart from whiteline obviously?

well if your stock suspension is anything like mine, your probably getting quite alot of roll into hard corners. so i reckon it would be wise to still look into getting some stiffer shocks or coilovers to deal with the body roll and the shocking ride height

AFAIK swaybars are more to assist with chassis flex and bracing? whereas coilovers and shocks would be more helpful in reducing the roll into corners so while getting a thicker rear swaybar is an improvement it probably wont help as much as shocks would if you're noticing more body roll as a problem.

anywayz with that said just get both..rear sway bar + tie bar..then some coilovers!

[man.exe]

AFAIK swaybars are more to assist with chassis flex and bracing?

Swaybars will eliminate the car body roll during turns, not assisting in chassis flex. I installed a whiteline rear 22mm and it got rid of around 70% of the tilting.

Driving a DC2 with the rear sway bar should be a new challenge and it should put more stress on your tyres.

[wynode]

AFAIK swaybars are more to assist with chassis flex and bracing?

Is that a quesion or a statement.........or you just don't know ?

[kk_]

more of a statement that i am not completely sure of

and i guess i was wrong

[tinkerbell]

One thing I noticed was a scary amount of body roll around some tight corners, and some loss of traction when pushing out of longer corners.

this is also symptomatic of blown/old shocks,

how many KM your car done?

[Shraka]

78,000 now. I'll ask the mechanics if the shocks are worn, and if they are, I wont both getting new stock ones that's for sure.

Now I dunno if this has been answered directly: Does lowering DC2 VTiRs by say, 2" cause any stress on other suspension components? Does it ruin things like camber angles? I know most people don't upgrade controll arms or anything like that, but that doesn't mean it's okay. (I know a few commodore owners who have cut their springs, but I think EVERYONE knows how bad THAT is)

[wynode]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25970

Lowered cars and negative camber
One of the biggest problems with a lowered Honda is the increased negative camber that is created. Negative camber might be a good thing in terms of handling however it will also mean that the insides of your tyres will wear out quicker so it is best to get a camber kit for the front / rear. Note however that once your tyres start wearing excessively on the inside, it is quit hard to get them wearing evenly so address this problem ASAP!

For EG, EK and DC2 you can purchase adjustable upper control arms to select the desired amount of camber. The same can be doen for DC5s via adjustable upper pillowball mounts. Do a search on the forums for more information.

How much negative camber you have depends on how much you lower it. The best way to measure how much the car i lowered is to measure from the centre of the wheel hub to the guard (measure straight up).

[shebangs]

Can anyone comment on upgrading the swaybars + tie bar on a DC2 VTiR with slightly worm stock springs/shocks?

Or should I save, and do my entire suspension in one hit? I'm planning on getting coilovers (undecided) - but then redoing the entire suspension. Front/Rear Struts, Front/rear Sway bars, Tie Bars. Will I need LCA if I'm going Coilovers? Then finally the coilovers and maybe misc stuff like C-Pillars etc.

I dont mind doing it in one go, but obviously doing it in two steps would be more fun for me as I'l be able to have the $500 much sooner than the $3000 for the entire setup.

Thanks

[tinkerbell]

you would save $$ on labour if you were paying to get it done...

you need ITR lca's to get proper Jap type coil-overs...

bigger sway bar will over-whelm the standard springs etc... so try to do it in one hit...

[shebangs]

So If I want to put coilovers on the VTiR, I need to get ITR LCA's? Do I need OEM LCA's or do Cusco/etc make them?

I'm basically looking at redo my entire suspension setup, and I know bigger sway bars front and rear (mainly rear) the go - and definately coilovers. But anything in the middle I'm unsure about. Items such as Control Arms, Tie's, Camber Kits and LCA's.

Matt