Yeah,it's easier to swap the starter on the ek civic.Only takes 20 minutes and you get to it from the top.Makes me appreciate it after hearing that.

Alternator is more work but easy when you know how,some models can be removed from top,some need to pop the drive shaft,others you can remove the wheel and it's right there.

Some out there are still being ripped off with those ridiculous prices but if there's and truth to the saying 'there's a sucker born every minute' that means opportunity. Where there's opportunity,there's opportunists.

There's no law saying you must be honest and hey,it's not lying if you don't say a lie.But withholding knowledge. .. and charging the customer $586.23 for a $20 part you can grab at the wreckers,well,that's a job I just could not do.

But that's the world and ya gotta be smart to not be a sucker,ya gotta put the effort in or else you will always be controlled to a point.