Riding the clutch is bad?

[mini_s2000]

it wears out the clutch faster!!! and it leaves a black mark on the flywheel as well. Shouldn't even be riding it in the place.

riding clutch = bad

[GSI-PSI]

These threads are getting more weird by the day.

[string]

I agree. Some of the total bullshit in this thread is amazing. A bunch of idiots talking crap about nothing...

Riding clutch is bad, but doing it once every now and then who gives a crap, your car isn't going to stop working if you do it a few times, so just don't make a habit of it.

Coasting down a hill in netural will use MORE fuel than in gear (which will use NONE). It is dangerous, and down right stupid. If you do it you deserve to run off the road. Your an idiot if you think that doing so is taking strain off your engine.

Changing gears at 2,000rpm is also stupid. Your wasting fuel in an rpm band of the engine where volumetric efficiency is very poor, thus, the required fuel to get a good ammount of torque is very high. Drive around 2,000 -> 3,500 or so. Engines were designed to make power at these points, why are you scared of driving that high.

Don't floor it everywhere and you'll notice the fuel gauge goes down that much slower...

[ProECU]

http://www.b16a.kicks-ass.net/fuel.xls

This is a spreadsheet of the factory Honda fuel values used in the B16's.
the graph is of RPM(x-axis) vs Fuel (y-axis)

you can see exactly what string is referring to:

Concept 1: Generally speaking, the greater the gear you're in, say 5th, the greather the engine load & manifold pressure required/generated.
With this in mind, lets look at an examply, say 3000rpm

at 3000rpm, you'll notice fuel consumption in "lower load/gear" is less than the same rpm in 5th gear.


Concept 2: in lower loads, at Redline, you will use less fuel than in a higher gear at say 3000rpm. Refer to the spreadsheet.

Conclusion: Try drive in lower load conditions to save fuel. Rpm range has very little effect on fuel consumption because, as previously mentioned, assuming constant load, fuel consumption will increase slightly as rpm's increase due to peak torque, however no where near as much as when RPM is constant, and Load Increases.

[lerroy]

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Great info there thanks :P

[GSI-PSI]

all i can say is that if u guys dont know how to drive you shouldnt be driving at all. Well said String.

[CONAN]

thanks for the info ProECU, now can you explain to me what is load?
lower load/engine load???

[joyride]

this might sound stupid but what does the burning the clutch smell like?

it gives off a distinctive smell... you cant explain it but you'll smell it

[26ounce]

Riding clutch is bad, but doing it once every now and then who gives a crap, your car isn't going to stop working if you do it a few times, so just don't make a habit of it.

Yeah man, the clutch is a wear part and you ride it momentarily every time you launch. As long as you don't continually ride the clutch at every set of uphill traffic lights, or often tow 1 ton + trailers, I don't think you should lose too much sleep over preserving your clutch plate.

[jdmlvn]

yes..
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[aaronng]

it gives off a distinctive smell... you cant explain it but you'll smell it

I'd hate to say this, but it smells like burning chicken shit. I think it's because hte stock clutch uses an organic friction face.

[R123]

hey guys.. hope i can bring a few reply from this thread. I had been reading it from start. There are some really good points. Now i have some qs, might b abit repatitive but i really wana re-asure it cos i am trying to build up a good habit of driving a manual car.
1) At wot state are counted as ~ridding cluch~? At friction point only? or? plz give detail in a simpler terms. (Thankz)
2) when u guys mention ~coasting~ a conrner, exactly how u doing that? ( jz put the gear in netural?)
3) Is this a right way to turn into a conrner? E.g i am traving on 5th, approch a conrner, i step on the cluch, apply the break, (select the right gear for the tuning, like 2nd or 3rd) hold the cluch ~while~ the cars turning, let go of the cluch and apply fuel to take off. was this whole procedures got any parts where i am riding the cluth?

so yeah... any useful, related comments will be much appearciated.

many thans