[Euro] Hard Starting Problem

[Ferrarista]

Hey Guys!

I have the same problem - the car is still only within its first 2000Kms, but sometimes when the car is still slightly warm, say I have left car for around 15 minutes and came back - it takes a few more cranks than usual (around 3-4) to start it up, and when it does that (not regularly but enough that I notice it) it feels like the car wants to die.



I THINK this is a very big, recurrent problem with the Euro accords.



But by the sounds of it, that it happens only when warm, etc,. it might be Fuel Vapour Lock which prevents car from starting easily.



Ferratista - if your problem is still ongoing even after battery is fully charged, may be we could do a group effort/complain and help get your car fixed! Personally this is the only thing that I am not overly happy about my new car.

Hey dude,

Now that you've mentioned it yes ive noticed it only happens once the car is warm, bascially turning it on after i have just driven it.

For the guy who said it happens to him but its not a problem, just crank it again....Its a new car, its not acceptable for this to happen. Imagine trying to sell it, and the new owner jumps in and it doesnt start on him? Its like the new pepsi adds that say "dont worry, there's no sugar"

If you live in Sydney we should do something about this, i serivce my car at Trivetts and basically its not leaving its next service untill its been fixed or a detailed explination has been given with future hope of getting it fixed.

It happened to me again today

On the positive note, this week i had 4 people randomly tell me that my car looked nice and 2 old men on different occasions ask me "What does your number plate mean?

[coladuna]

I haven't had this happen to me recently for some reason.
Maybe I didn't drive off soon enough after turning off the engine.
Mine never failed to start though. It just sounds like it's struggling to start.
Maybe I'll try it tommorow. Drive for a bit, stop the engine and the start after 30 sec or so.
It doesn't really bother me a great deal, but might be worth mentioning when I go in for my next service. I'm pretty sure they'll come up with excuses like "It's normal" or "We couldn't replicate the problem, so you'll have to make another appointment to go on a drive with a service manager". I'm sick of hearing those two excuses from Honda dealers.

[yfin]

Do you wait a few seconds in the key-turn stage II? It primes up the fuel pump first... THEN turn to stage III which turns the engine.

EDIT: wouldn't hurt to step on the gas a bit too when cranking too if it still doesn't like to start

One thing my dad once told me was NEVER touch the accelerator pedal when starting an EFI car (he is a motor mechanic). I'll ask him why next time I see him.

[Omotesando]

Mine never failed to start though. It just sounds like it's struggling to start.
Maybe I'll try it tommorow. Drive for a bit, stop the engine and the start after 30 sec or so.

Mine is the same, it hasn't failed to start, just feels like its not starting right!

I think what you should try is turn it off, for around 5 or 10 min, then restart it to see if it happens. That should be symptoms for Fuel Vapour Lock, which there is no fix I believe.


Ferrarista - I am in melbourne but if hey, if we complain to Honda's top level, not that they might care, anyway, the problem is yours has a slightly bigger problem than my car (may be because mine is still only below 2000km).... And I COMPLETELY agree with you and others, this is not acceptable for a newish car.

[EuroDude]

[sorry to dig up an old thread]


I think this problem is common to all Euro's.

Ive had my MY06 Euro for only a week and it also takes 5 or 6 turns to start (It has never failed to start tho).
And one time is started instantly then bogged for a few seconds and started up.
strange...

My EG Civic on the other hand starts much quicker - sometimes on the first turn (half a second)

[chunsa]

03 std manual euro

~40k km

ive also noticed this problem..

when u try to start it sometimes takes a longer time to start up

this only occurs when the car has been driven -> arrive at destination -> turn off -> then turn back on a bit later

it does not "die" or anything but just takes longer than usual to start than say first starting the car for the day

however following what aaron has said about letting the car idle a bit before turning the car off seemed to solve a bit of the problem but it still happens..

seems like with the newer 06 models the problem is still there

[Omotesando]

"this only occurs when the car has been driven -> arrive at destination -> turn off -> then turn back on a bit later

it does not "die" or anything but just takes longer than usual to start than say first starting the car for the day"



Yes this is exactly what happens.
My car stopped doing this now however, whereas some others in extreme cases have trouble starting the car during this period.

No one has confirmed it is fuel vapour lock though. But if you idle it a bit first and it works, that is a good indication as you let car cool down first.

[hengis]

Sorry to revive the same thread, but I'm getting the same problem in my '06, and its annoying me, cuz its happening on a weekly basis.

Can you guys give me an update on what you did about the problem, and what honda was able to do, and whether it helped?

[aaronng]

I added a ground cable from the alternator to the chassis. Then my warm starting problems disappeared. Weird as it shouldn't affect it but it did. Now my warm starting is much quicker than my cold starting.

[EuroDude]

hms thats interesting. Do you have a pic?

[MiSloVic]

my euro is difficult to crank as well.. needs about 4-5 cranks, before it will start.. once, i left the car at the airport for 1 wk, and the battery went dead flat..
i have a feeling that there could be a current leak somewhere..

wonder if anyone have the same problem?

[hengis]

aaron: can you elaborate on your grounding job?
is this a diy? if so, can u give details on whats required.

i'm more inclined to handball it to the dealer though rather than diy it