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 Originally Posted by string
I hope you are not serious about putting strain on the clutch and gearbox... If you are so worried about wearing parts of your car down, go ride a bike you pussy.
I heal-toe every day, pretty much every gear change out of habit.. It makes everything so much smoother, and makes driving more fun. When first doing it in my car, it was hard due to throttle pedal placement, but you get used to it and your feet just figure it out.
huh? bike riders are pussy's? and what makes them such a pussy... and don't say "cuz they just are!" hrmm.. interesting! pretty dam sure a bike can outrun you any day of the week!
and you don't think by NOT using heel and toe, it doesn't put ANY stress on the gearbox or clutch while downshifting...? i call bs!
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i did exactly what Mr CREX did when i had my DC2, just got my mechanic to move the pedal up alittle, all fixed.
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if you get aftermarket pedals.. a trick is tojust put some spacers of some sort behind the actual pedal.. or you could just shove some washers on with the bolts that hold the pedals on... many ways just gotta be imaginative lol...
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 Originally Posted by AUDMDC5R
huh? bike riders are pussy's? and what makes them such a pussy... and don't say "cuz they just are!" hrmm.. interesting! pretty dam sure a bike can outrun you any day of the week!
and you don't think by NOT using heel and toe, it doesn't put ANY stress on the gearbox or clutch while downshifting...? i call bs!
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i did exactly what Mr CREX did when i had my DC2, just got my mechanic to move the pedal up alittle, all fixed.
I was implying a push-bike, where the aformentioned "pussy" would not have to worry very much about "wearing" parts down...
Obviously there will be wear by doing ANYTHING in a car. Once you get over the fact that there is nothing you can do about it, you have to accept it.
If you are so worried about gearbox and clutch wear then drive an auto; Simple as that.
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thx for the constructive replys,
in my old car i would heal toe a lot on the street, i dont think there is anything wrong with it. espically at round-a-bouts i found it very help full. its jst like rev matching when gearing down it saves clutch, box, and brakes but i guess u laugh at that to?
sorry dude i think it is perfectly fine to heal toe, rev match or use any other method on the street.
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ok watever, i give up... no point in this arguement, u drive the way u do and i'll drive the way i do!
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um....i don't own a dc2, but i've driven many dc2r
i don't see the problem with the pedals at all...
people in best motoring has never said anything about any car's "pedal height"
but then again, they know how to drive
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i heel and toe normally now, i only ever do the conventional shift when i am in heavy traffic. If i was you i would get some aftermarket pedals and put a spacer on the accelerator, simple enough.
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 Originally Posted by Cartoon
why in a DC2 VTiR is the acc. peddel set back further than the brake??? how the hell do u heal toe like that?
is there any way of making them all even??
thanks
I thought the same when I got my vtir as this was very differenty to my last car, however I practised again and find it is actually better for my driving style, and perhaps I have very flexible ankles too.
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IMO practicing heel-toe on the street is a great idea. Unless you are rich and can afford gobs of track time, this is the best way to learn and be smooth at it.
Sure, the amount of throttle blip you give it and the amount of braking you do is much lower than at the track, but so what? Doesn't mean you can't practice at all. Then you can be smoother at the track than someone who hasn't ever practiced before, and after all, smoothness is a key to success.
Having the brake pedal higher up than the accelerator is normal and I suggest you don't change it (for safety reasons -- if anyone else drives your car, its one of the things that lets you "feel" the position of the pedals without looking, and they could need to brake in a hurry)
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if your tall and you cant heal n toe in a teg then its because of the steering wheel being in the way of your legs. my mate has a lowered drivers seat (5cm) and when i drove that it was much easier to heal and toe.
if your sitting lower you can turn your right leg in the left direction and put the ball of your foot on the brake and the heel of your foot can reach the accalarator..
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I agree with the above. If you can't do it because of knee issues, then by all means move the pedal. But otherwise, it is probably best just to get used to it.
My advise still stands, just get used to it... It feels weird for everyone when they start doing it, but it becomes easier the more you do it.
Also, I find that I can do it in pretty much any car, no matter the pedal location, so (for me anyway) it was not to do with pedal location at all , rather, technique.
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 Originally Posted by 00dc2
Hey Cartoon.. larger pics of your avatar or ban
haha, i think thats the most sensible request so far. But yeah, technique will evolve around a problem, moving the pedal may not be nessecary.
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