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  1. #49
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    Is this EMPTY talking or real stuff? Well, to be hornest with you, you are totally wrong...and also, not in a million years....



    Quote Originally Posted by mrdaveo
    Well i know upgrading the cams into a Civic type R cams and type R valve springs and vtec controller will make more power than the civic type R engine

  2. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdaveo
    Well i know upgrading the cams into a Civic type R cams and type R valve springs and vtec controller will make more power than the civic type R engine
    mmmmmm you sure dude??

  3. #51
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    Formaz in Perth told me they just fully built a b16a2 engine with stock parts but ugrade the head using Civic type R cams n type R valve springs (im sure they upgraded the ECU too...n it made more power than the b16b engine... i didnt believe it until the staff showed me a dyno sheet comparing each engine.. .. the b16a had a higher power reading than the civic type R engine.

    I'll try see if i can get a copy of the dyno sheets n post em on here

  4. #52
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    Dyno sheet??? haha...
    Dyno Sheet doesn't mean anything at all...
    If not, find someone with a CTR and race with that car you've mention, and i'll see which side you put your money on...

  5. #53
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    Friend made low 14s in his ek4, which is quicker than a type R,
    Full exhaust, replacement K&N filter, ECU, ITR cams, Semi slicks, Cam gears, HKS suspension.(can't rem the other mods)
    Otherwise stock engine. Pity he sold it and got a type R.
    Someone on these forums owns the EK4 now though. It got more work later on but he said he never got a chance to run it again.
    Evo IX - THE FINAL EVOLUTION

  6. #54
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    i said makes more power than a civic type R... not ova take a civic type R cos they have a close ratio gear box with LSD n it will always win the drags!

  7. #55
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    Also from what i heard unless you get ECU and cam gears the ITR/CTR Cams and valve springs are gonna make you loose power rather than gain. Also the Vtec controller ain't gonna control the fuel map and timing maps which will allow youto make more power.

    If it was that easy everyone would be doing it straight away and not buy a Type R.
    CTR Cams ($800), Spring ($300), Vtec Controller ($400) that's $1,500. I'm sure everyone would spend that to make their car quicker than a type R cos that would cost around $8-12K (from a b16a model) to a Type R model
    Evo IX - THE FINAL EVOLUTION

  8. #56
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    making more power on a dyno doesn't mean much, take it to the 1/4 mile track and it will show you what your car can do.

    P.S closer ratios do not always mean quicker 1/4 mile times, See the Type R Vid by Best motoring where they run the earlier model type R(4.4 ratio) & later model Type R (4.7) they were equal at the end.
    Evo IX - THE FINAL EVOLUTION

  9. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by mrdaveo
    not ova take a civic type R cos they have a close ratio gear box
    FYI.... the ratios are the same between EK4 box and CTR
    DLUG Racing

  10. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limbo
    Friend made low 14s in his ek4, which is quicker than a type R,
    Full exhaust, replacement K&N filter, ECU, ITR cams, Semi slicks, Cam gears, HKS suspension.(can't rem the other mods)
    Otherwise stock engine. Pity he sold it and got a type R.
    Someone on these forums owns the EK4 now though. It got more work later on but he said he never got a chance to run it again.
    yeap and LSD gbox


    but remember.. luzinit got 14.9 stock with just a cat back on street tyres (EK4)
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  11. #59
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    Is it???...Are you 100% sure?? hmm...



    Quote Originally Posted by Limbo
    P.S closer ratios do not always mean quicker 1/4 mile times, See the Type R Vid by Best motoring where they run the earlier model type R(4.4 ratio) & later model Type R (4.7) they were equal at the end.

  12. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by todaek9
    Is it???...Are you 100% sure?? hmm...
    100% sure dead even at the end!!

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