Its funny how some people say "The civic will beat it". On paper yeah possibly, but how do you know any of these two can drive? Obviously Anthony is asking which car would beat the other on paper, but if he can't drive then it wouldnt take a lot to beat the VTiR. Obviously Jon knows this since he has a GSi and is beating VTiRs.

Basically what I am getting at is, it depends on the driver mate, and how quickly you can swap the cogs while keeping the revs up in your power band