EURO Disappointment!!

[Fr3aKi3]

Oh Shit looks like I've hit a nerve. Fragile little petals aren't we. [A little bit ignorant aren't we?, judging a car before experiencing it]

I suppose people only complain when they have a problem.
I don't expect them to be perfect as that would be an impossibility. Fancy comparing a Honda to a Ferrari. Jap car's are way more reliable that Italian cars.
I was just saying that I changed my view on them, a view which I held very highly as I have "Driven" the model Numerous times. That was the idea of the post to see what reaction I got. If it was a honest one or a blinkered one.
I now know what that reaction is.

People do only complain when they have a problem, there isn't a need to make threads to justify the purchase of a euro (The awards it has are proof enough not to mention articles comparing it more expensive german rivals and coming out on top).

I don't think you've hit a nerve, its more like people do not understand your logic. For example to say that Japanese car's are more reliable than Italian, given that it may be true; have you taking into consideration the cost? The Euro is a 40 odd thousand dollar car, a Ferrari is at least 6 times more costly yet its less reliable? So what I understand from that its ok for a more expensive car to be unreliable but its catastrophically disasterous if a cheaper car has issues? Don't get me wrong mate, i'm not having a go at you personally (well mayb the ignorant comment was... lol) and if it seems like i'm putting words in your mouth i appologise. It's just that i don't seem to understand your logic.

Let's put it into perspective, when you purchased your cb7 accord. Why did you choose Accord over a Camry or a Mazda 626? Was it because of all the awards it won? I don't think that model of accord had many awards under its name at the time (i'm not too sure about this so please correct me if i'm wrong). May be you just preferred the accord AFTER you drove it.

My suggestion is, before you decide to bag out a car go for a test drive. See why people like the car and why people don't like the car, then judge for yourself. If the car is as bad as you say then there must be thousand upon thousands of idiots out there who are willing to pay 33-43k for an inferior car, because Euro's seem to be a very common sight on the roads.

If you want to upgrade to a Euro then go to a dealership and take one for a test drive. If you decide not to test drive it simply just because of what you've read on the internet, then it's your loss not ours. You've read all the threads about the complaints about the Euro but have you seen a thread in which the owner regretted getting the car? There are probably a couple of these threads, but then again there are hundreds more thread with happy owners.

German companies such as AUDI, BMW, and Mercedes are said to be at the top the game when it comes to technology, safety and quality. If that's true then why did the sales for mercedes slump? Why are there issues witht he electronics? Recently i went with a mate to pick up an M3 which had an issue with its SMG gearbox, personally i would've expected an M3 to not have any gearbox issues but that doesn't stop me from wanting one.

My point being, there is no such things as the perfect car or a car that doesn't have any issues for that matter. The german companies supposedly make the best cars in the world, funny how an Accord Euro Luxruy was picked over a Audi A4 in a head to head comparison in a article in Wheels or Motor magazine.

Take a step back and think about what you need from a car, since you said that an 06 odyssey might be on your shortlist. They are 2 distinctyly different cars so see what your needs are, take a test drive in both cars and see which fills your needs better or gives you a better feeling when driving it. The oddysey has won it's share of awards as well, so either car would be a good choice. Personally i think the Odyssey should've had a bigger engine or at least have more power considering that it is a 7seater MPV but at least it does look very sleek for a people mover.

ends rant/essay.

[pepelepew]

Odd post from a 43 yr old mechanic/workshop owner.....

I'm surprised you'd give so much credence to what you read on the internet if you have that sort of experience behind you....

[EK9]

^^^ Wow, way to prove a point. You've covered everything, wot's the point of me typing? Hehehe...

Yeh, Euro's are great cars... but then again everyone/everything has it's lil problems. Like they say, "don't judge a book by it's problems". Err, yeah...

[EuroDude]

Dude its a forum where people ask questions about a problem so off course there are going to be 95% negative issues. They dont post questions like:

Hi my Euro is perfect but I want my door handle to rattle, could you tell me how to mod my door handle?

[ngupil]

Nothing is perfect in this world, not humans, not cars, nothing. If you want to complain about euro, there are lots to be complaint, but it downs to what you want. if you want a very fast car, go for subaru or m3 or amg's, euro is slow compared to those cars. if you want technological advance cars, buy mercedez or BMWs, coz euro from the stone age if you compare it to them. For me euro is the perfect car for me. it has the looks, the price suits in my budget, power wise its okay, basically everything. thats why i bought euro

[Alpine]

The Euro is a good car but I wouldn't call it a "great" car...

We found it underpowered despite its 140kw and somewhat lacking in torque down low and not exactly generous room in the back. You gotta keep it revving high up to get the go and that gets tiresome after a while, and noise insulation is liveable but not exactly what I expected of a car of this price. That was why we got the 3.0 V6 Accord Luxury in the end. Effortless power, lots of space, and much quieter.

[Speeder]

As some of us already said, no cars are perfect. Exactly the same cars are never built exactly the same, every car from the same production line can differ. However, in saying this, Euro is a hell of a lot better in terms of quality and the price then the European counterparts, and lets not forget, the Japanese are still no.1 when it comes to reliability.

[albii]

hey GEN46L..who gives a shit..

[panda[cRx]]

good post fr3aki3

and working in a honda service dept there are very little 'common problems' with the euro. the only one i can think of off the top of my head would be some cars had some brake shudder issues but that has now been rectified.

the accord vti/v6 on the other hand have had a few issues mainly relating to squeeking interiors, kick panels in LHF footwell coming loose, problems with tint being scratched from the door internals and a few other issues

and dude honda australia is more than aware of any issues people may have with their whole range

[aaronng]

It's because the Euro threads are recent, so they are first on the list.

Let me give you my answer. Euro owners are picky. Civic owners who sat in my car said that it was so quiet, while I was pointing out the rattles. So my "rattles" is equivalent to a Civic's quiet.

What other problems are there that are specific to the Euro? The clutch creak is on the old civic, accord and integras.

[Butso]

*Please do not spam in the Accord forum. Do so in the lounge* (aaronng)

[ECU-MAN]

Have a Cry !

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euro's rock, I would highly recomend them to anyone
I find I tend to hit revlimiter to much, I am used to a higher reving B16A, you can hardly tell its time to shif when going by rev sound , I need to drive it more.

thats my gripe,

like I said above, they rock