from my experience in tuning cars, datalogging is an absolute must. I really can't imagine tryign to get a good tune from just watching the a/f print out...


Also, what's wrong with the fact that hondata chips the stock ecu... it's taking an extrememely well engineering item, and giving you complete control over it. It's as much a standalone ecu as any other... can't really compare it to a piggy back. Although I can understand not wanting to spend that much money for it... I suppose that's the benefit of uberdata/crome... get all those nice options without having someone bend you over and do you raw