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 Originally Posted by yfin
LXRY - perhaps you can describe your problem in more detail. If your car steers straight on a flat road it is a different issue to what other people are experiencing in this thread. Are you saying your car drifts off the road on a slanted road? If it does - that does not sound abnormal. If I was you and still concerned I would ask the dealership to loan you another Euro at the dealership and take it for a long drive. See if it is any different.
If you do get a wheel alignment get a laser alignment and a print out of the cars specifications.
Woogler - re that 6 second lane change business - I got the same story from my dealership when I raised it in early 2004. I wonder why you guys are all reporting a drift to the right - mine was a drift to the left. Weird.
yfin I had and still do have the same problem as all these guys...my car was drifting right even on a straight road VERY,VERY BADLY!! at 4000-5000klm's At the 10,000klm service they (dealership) adjusted something don't know what it was to try to fix the problem. When I got my car back my steering wheel was at 12:15 and still drifting to the right but not as much, but still there!! went back the second time straight away!! and they told me nothing wrong (adjusted my steering wheel) now still pulling slightly to the right, steering wheel at 11:55 now lol (they couldn't even do that properly) tyres are worn on the outside edges. I asked them to do an alignment twice they assured me it wasn't alignment. Now if there was no problem why would I be complaining, I am an excellant driver as I was brought up on a farm, driving tractors, forklifts, trucks, paddock bombs and semi trailers have drove a wide range of vehicles through out my life I am no expert in alignment or camber I uunderstand that if the road cambers that you will get some degree of drift but our situattion is not normal. I should know if my car pulls to the right that there is something wrong and I know when something is wrong...and something is wrong. I feel as if i've just been repeatig my self lol..I'm not alone on this one yfin please offer some suggestions to help us plz
Am I asking for too much I thought I bought an engineering marvel THE HONDA EURO ACCORD from a company that THRIVES on PERFECTION and QUALITY STANDARD, HONDA. It seems that this is not the case at the moment...they can't even give us answers on this subject, not too mention i bought a NEW car....Don't get me wrong I love the car that's y i bought it..
My tractor drives straighter than my car !!
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 Originally Posted by LXRY
yfin I had and still do have the same problem as all these guys...my car was drifting right even on a straight road VERY,VERY BADLY!! at 4000-5000klm's At the 10,000klm service they (dealership) adjusted something don't know what it was to try to fix the problem. When I got my car back my steering wheel was at 12:15 and still drifting to the right but not as much, but still there!! went back the second time straight away!! and they told me nothing wrong (adjusted my steering wheel) now still pulling slightly to the right, steering wheel at 11:55 now lol (they couldn't even do that properly) tyres are worn on the outside edges. I asked them to do an alignment twice they assured me it wasn't alignment. Now if there was no problem why would I be complaining, I am an excellant driver as I was brought up on a farm, driving tractors, forklifts, trucks, paddock bombs and semi trailers have drove a wide range of vehicles through out my life I am no expert in alignment or camber I uunderstand that if the road cambers that you will get some degree of drift but our situattion is not normal. I should know if my car pulls to the right that there is something wrong and I know when something is wrong...and something is wrong. I feel as if i've just been repeatig my self lol..I'm not alone on this one yfin please offer some suggestions to help us plz
Am I asking for too much I thought I bought an engineering marvel THE HONDA EURO ACCORD from a company that THRIVES on PERFECTION and QUALITY STANDARD, HONDA. It seems that this is not the case at the moment...they can't even give us answers on this subject, not too mention i bought a NEW car....Don't get me wrong I love the car that's y i bought it..
My tractor drives straighter than my car !!
Get a laser alignment done by a tyre place. Get the results for camber and toe printed out straight from their computer. If it is out of spec, bring a copy of that to the dealer and complain about it. Otherwise, it is some other inherent problem.
Camber
Front 0°00'±45'
Rear -1°00'±30'
Total Toe
Front 0±2 mm
Rear IN 2±2 mm
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Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2
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Your said your tyres are worn unevenly now LXRY so it is may be very hard to correct this without changing tyres.
If I was in your position I would be going to a tyre shop and explaining the issue. I would get the tyres rebalanced (around $30) and a laser alignment done (if you buy something else - eg a rebalance - some shops will not charge you for the alignment unless the lasers show the car is out of specification).
If that doesn't work I would try the rims and tyres from another Euro and see how the car drives (eg a friend or if you are REALLY persistent the dealer may help you with this).
And of course your tractor is going to steer straighter than the Euro on rough surfaces - look how soft the sidewalls are on those tyres.
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 Originally Posted by aaronng
Get a laser alignment done by a tyre place. Get the results for camber and toe printed out straight from their computer. If it is out of spec, bring a copy of that to the dealer and complain about it. Otherwise, it is some other inherent problem.
Camber
Front 0°00'±45'
Rear -1°00'±30'
Total Toe
Front 0±2 mm
Rear IN 2±2 mm
Is that what it should be set at aarong? Are these the settings my car should be at?
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 Originally Posted by LXRY
Is that what it should be set at aarong? Are these the settings my car should be at?
That's the settings for a stock Euro that is NOT lowered. Camber can't be adjusted without a replacement upper arm or aftermarket camber kits.
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Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2
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 Originally Posted by yfin
Your said your tyres are worn unevenly now LXRY so it is may be very hard to correct this without changing tyres.
If I was in your position I would be going to a tyre shop and explaining the issue. I would get the tyres rebalanced (around $30) and a laser alignment done (if you buy something else - eg a rebalance - some shops will not charge you for the alignment unless the lasers show the car is out of specification).
If that doesn't work I would try the rims and tyres from another Euro and see how the car drives (eg a friend or if you are REALLY persistent the dealer may help you with this).
And of course your tractor is going to steer straighter than the Euro on rough surfaces - look how soft the sidewalls are on those tyres.
Yfin I bought a new car with new car warranty, thats why I bought a new car so I wouldn't have to worry about any problems, dealership or honda should be taking care of this, I shouldn't have to touch anything!! It has only done 13000 klm's.
Are you working for Honda?
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Why not the Sport?
 Originally Posted by aaronng
All those with the problem have to differentiate between tramlining and drifting (not the sport).
Tramlining is when the car pulls to the side when going over grooves, road camber or even little potholes on the road. When accelerating, this is enhanced even more. When the road is perfect and straight, your car tracks straight while only needing your hand to be resting on the wheel. If this is what you experience, then it is a normal trait of the Euros.
Drifting on the other hand is the car pulling itself to the left or right when you are on a perfectly flat road with no surface defects and just resting your hand on the wheel is not enough to prevent the slight direction change.
Hi Aaronng
Just wondering what you mean here by (not the sport)?
Thanx
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 Originally Posted by LXRY
Yfin I bought a new car with new car warranty, thats why I bought a new car so I wouldn't have to worry about any problems, dealership or honda should be taking care of this, I shouldn't have to touch anything!! It has only done 13000 klm's.
Are you working for Honda?
I doubt he works for Honda. BTW, he's also right in that if your tyres are worn unevenly, they would cause drifting.
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Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2
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Going to the dealership now will let u guyz know how I went wish me luck....as for the alignment it isn't laser DAMN I stuffed up....
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 Originally Posted by cgspot
Hi Aaronng
Just wondering what you mean here by (not the sport)?
Thanx
LOL, drifting is a sport. Sliding the car through the corners using controlled understeering in an oversteering position. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport)
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Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2
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dooo
 Originally Posted by aaronng
ok gotcha, I didn't go and see the movie
Just thought you might have meant the Euro Sport
Ill go back and drift to the right
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 Originally Posted by LXRY
Going to the dealership now will let u guyz know how I went wish me luck....as for the alignment it isn't laser DAMN I stuffed up....
What were the readings?
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Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2
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