Advance timing

**fadz** · 26-07-2005 10:50 PM

hi just a question anyone here advance timed ther car's if so wat are the bad's and goods

**BLKCRX** · 27-07-2005 12:00 AM

Ping PIng ping Ping ... can happen if you advance it to far...especially how rpm high vacuum (mbar) tuning = correct timing and air fuel, a combination of both will revival greater benefits. But when you change / move the dizzy to advance your timing your putting advance everywhere, tuning puts it where its needed… ie Idle should be 16deg ;-) and low rpm high throttle should be negative / set ignition…… on a typical B engine.

**wynode** · 27-07-2005 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by BLKCRX

Ping PIng ping Ping ... can happen if you advance it to far...especially how rpm high vacuum (mbar) tuning = correct timing and air fuel, a combination of both will revival greater benefits. But when you change / move the dizzy to advance your timing your putting advance everywhere, tuning puts it where its needed… ie Idle should be 16deg ;-) and low rpm high throttle should be negative / set ignition…… on a typical B engine.

Such a complicated answer. True that it advances throughout the entire rev range, but we're not comparing it to an aftermarket tunable ECU

I advanced my timing a coupe of degrees, ran PULP and got more KMs out of a full tank and there was also a slight improvement in power.

**fadz** · 27-07-2005 05:30 PM

so is it worth doin it to my 94 model hatch vti civic?
if so il let my mechanic do it...

**tinkerbell** · 28-07-2005 12:38 PM

must run 98 octane if you do...

**Lukezen27** · 28-07-2005 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by fadz

so is it worth doin it to my 94 model hatch vti civic?
if so il let my mechanic do it...

My last guy advance timed and I didnt feel any dif till I got my Timing belt changed by Hannys and they put it back to stock

Now its way less powerfull

Oh and I only use 98

**euGeR** · 30-07-2005 03:32 PM

How do you advance timing without adjustable cam gears?

(other than the hanny's method)

**tinkerbell** · 30-07-2005 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by euGeR

How do you advance timing without adjustable cam gears?

(other than the hanny's method)

start engine and wait til it is warm (or go for a quick strap!)

jump the service connector,

loosen the 3 dizzy bolts (leave the top one tightish)

grab a timing light, point it at the crank pulley, see what the timing is (you MUST look directly along the line on the timing belt cover) and adjsut the dizzy accordingly...

the middle mark is 16 degrees on my teg, the one furthest from the white TDC mark is 18 degrees,

which is what it is set at...

i can feel the difference

(oh - and dont forget to remove the service connector jumper!!!)

**wynode** · 30-07-2005 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by euGeR

How do you advance timing without adjustable cam gears?

(other than the hanny's method)

I think this thread is talking about ignition timing only (as opposed to cam timing)

**ProECU** · 31-07-2005 12:38 AM

If you listen to tinkers instructions and run 98 octane you will be fine.
After all, its only 2 degees advancement, I sometimes apply more on the dyno, and anyone who has had any experience here will know just how timing effects the power curve.

Enjoy

**2NTICN** · 03-09-2005 11:48 AM

i got a b18a da9 and the guy i bought it off said to only use 98octane is in, would this be because it has advance timing? and if not would advance timing give me much improvement??? my only mods are headers and catback....