Toda C on stock b18c7

[BiGANG]

hey guys,

i was wondering after doing a search i found most ppl are running toda b's and not many run toda c cams. Would spec c cams make any more power if tuned on a type r as compared to toda b cams? Or will it just be too much for the stock motor? Also the guys that answer can you give reasons why the cams are good/no good for the car cheers.

[tinkerbell]

you you have a stock B18C7 and the first thing you are going to add is toda C's?

you thought of upgrading exhaust manifold etc?

you would need a full aftermarket ECU to tune Toda C's too i'd reckon...

the engine is an interactive system - one part does not make it, it is the combination of parts that is the key...

[Civic Type R]

the engine is an interactive system - one part does not make it, it is the combination of parts that is the key...

That quote should be made a bookmark. I keep telling people the same thing

[ProECU]

Fact: Stock ITR does not have enough dynamic compression for those cams to work.

Fact: Stock ITR does not have the correct valvetrain springs/retainers to take advantage of the power band of those cams.

[BiGANG]

sorry guys i didnt explain myself too clearly.. i meant stock internals, assuming exhaust/headers/intake/ecu is installed. But proecu answered what i wanted to know

Fact: Stock ITR does not have enough dynamic compression for those cams to work.

i was looking for more reasoning as to why noone was running toda c's on their car.

[pgclee]

you'll need 12.5:1 compression at least to run those cams nicely...
and alot of work to the head...C's are mostly for Track usage...i reckon B's should be good enough, if you're going for drags...

you also need to consider FLOW...port and polish, uprater Valve Springs, TI-retainers, ADJ cam pulley, bigger TB + matching flow with intake...head-gasket...don't go for C's dude...too much money involve...

[Civic Type R]

Im assuming Adrian from TODA hasnt responded here is because he has said all that countless times in previous posts.

[EGB16A]

i read somewhere that toda c vtec engagment come in at 7000rpm? true or false?

[tinkerbell]

VTEC engages when the ECU tells it to.

[ProECU]

i read somewhere that toda c vtec engagment come in at 7000rpm? true or false?

7000rpm is about the optimal vtec x-over point for those cams and they'll keep making power to about 9500+ rpm

[EGB16A]

7000rpm is about the optimal vtec x-over point for those cams and they'll keep making power to about 9500+ rpm

that would suck waiting till 7000rpm lol... i guess the cams are designed to make more power throughout the whole rev range though.

does skunk2 have an equivilent to toda C?

[ALLMTR996]

Im assuming Adrian from TODA hasnt responded here is because he has said all that countless times in previous posts.

Why would he waste his time no one takes any notice of anyone that knows anything and gives honest advice from years of experience.They just take advice from Neville Nobody.
ALLMTR996