I'm confused too..............:confused:
This page says the 12th.....?
http://www.jtune.com.au/order.html
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I'm confused too..............:confused:
This page says the 12th.....?
http://www.jtune.com.au/order.html
Just checked,it IS the 12th.For some reason i thought it was the 14th.!!!I think i'll sit this one out and wait and see.I'm not having my credit card being charged now and then having to wait up to 10 weeks for the gear to arrive.what about the reflash,the ECU has got to be taken out of your car,sent to Melb.reflashed,sent back,installed and dynoed.Nah,it all sounds too hard for me.Maybe those of us in Sydney if we get some numbers then possibly James will come up here and reflash us all in 1 day?
Im In,
Not actually sure whether to decide on just the Mild Flash or replace all my current gear and go for the Extreme Package!
Would love more information regarding the Mild Flash, doesnt seem to be alot available for it!
Is the vtec changeover point for the Mild flash the same as the Extreme Package?
Would love to see more results on using the Mild flash with different brand I/H/E
Is the information available for the TSX Hondata reflash able to be used as an idea of how the mild flash will be?
Does anyone know whether any of the J-Tune reflashes will reduce the lagginess of the DBW?
From what ive read they do help smooth out the DBW issues but not so much because of the tune but because of the gain in torque the tune offers.
Im going to order the mild reflash tonight. I wonder how long after the 12th it will take to get it done given i dont actually have to wait for any parts to be made...
I believe theres still an expected 6-10 weeks wait :(
i ordered the Extreme package, Hope its as good as its sounding :p
Have they committed to delivery dates after purchase? Unless they have the stock now it would be hard for them to give a concrete date. There can always be delays with ships, customs, etc. Not sure what anyone can do about that - it is a risk with ordering anything - unless it is in stock you may have to wait. That is one reason why the pre-order gets a discount.
I ordered the Mild Reflash last week and I haven't been charged yet. Although, mine's a 2007 which means the reflash hasn't even been designed yet, so I wouldn't expect to be charged for a while. As long as I keep the discounted price and don't have to pay way before I actually receive the product.
Haven't decided on intake yet though... If I want to keep open the option of upgrading to Extreme in the next year, then I'd go the Jtune intake. Otherwise I'd probably go Comptech Icebox and take advantage of the current exchange rate.
I just can't commit to the Extreme package without any feedback on the sound of the exhaust and unfortunately Jtune are unable to post any sound or video clips of the exhaust.
I don't know if everyone on here knows about the payment for the Jtune pre orders. I was speaking to James and he said the order form is just to get your order in place and that payment isn't due until you are invoiced, he said 'X' amount of days. Meaning when they are ready to be shipped?
Well to think about it realistically...
If J-Tune took to the trouble of delaying and delayin their release for YEARS.... then obviously releasing it now means they must be fairly confident of being ready.
So the chances of them arriving on time and up to expected standard (from China?) will be better than b4.
Pretty sure they will come eventually, just whether this batch of production is going to be as good as their last batch of final samples.
I deal in trading and manufacturing. Its pathetic dealing with overseas manufacturers. They always get it slightly wrong each time. :(
1, i cant believe this thread is still going
and 2, im not hating on J-tune, but personally after all this wait i wouldnt get one. empty promise after empty promise is what i see. fair enough it takes a long time to ge things done right, but just the fact that they said so much crap earlier on and because of the fact that they didnt make good on their promise when they said they would, i cant see why this would be any different (im talking about the pre-ordering)
There you have it. I put the order in for the Mild Reflash 30 secs ago.:p
Doesnt look like it will be available for a while but thats ok cause Ive got my new headers and Fujita intake to install.:thumbsup:
Now im not sure when to get my dyno's done...in what order..hmm
Hope its as good as they say it will be. I pretty sure its going to be a lot better that the USA hondata and thats pretty good by all accounts.
cheers
russ:angel:
I see it quite differently to you. The question in my mind is why have there been so many delays and what has been the cause? Why is this release date any different to those of the past? I guess I am just a sceptic and until the product is here and has been tested independently I wont commit to it.
Surely somebody on this forum has heard back from Jtune regarding their order by now?
Hmmm,i got a feeling you'll be waiting and waiting.
Not at this stage. I know my orders been received as I posted at their forum. No invoice as yet.................
Why is it that I can just imagine a month from now those people who put in an order getting a message apologising for the delay in responding (while no invoices have yet to be received) and then stating that the release date has been pushed back another month :s
lol you guys still waiting?
i wont trust this at all in the first place and this prove me right.
yeah customer service isn't one of their strong points thats for sure.
Im still waiting to hear back from a PM. I even saw the admin online a few times in his PM box!
I'll just blow thousands of dollars elsewhere ;)
I think its not fair to say and spread words that they can't get the orders in 'nearly' on time or something... lol.
Afterall, they had waited years to release the website... I mean the products! One never knows. If you get it on time, and you paid a discounted price, then lucky for you we'll be paying much more than the lucky first few.
Sword cuts both ways
You know the real shame is this is only going to be released in the final few months of the Euro life. Everything has moved on since 2003 - even a freaking 2007 V6 Tarago is running a 14.9 second quarter mile these days (see lounge thread!). Family cars are becoming pretty damn fast in a straight line now!
In the beginning i was all keen to get the JTUNE gear but it's been so long coming i'm over it now.I'm happy with my car the way it is(suspension and car sound mods)and as yfin said by the time the gear actually arrives the Euro is in the last stage of its model life.I may get the mild reflash but only when they actually have it available and ready to go,not this give me your credit card details and we'll ship it in 6-10 weeks(maybe) nonsense.:thumbdwn:
They dont take the Credit Card details. I ordered , ticked the CCard box and that its ( no numbers are asked for). You wait till you get the invoice then pay via CCard. But at this stage no invoices have been sent.
I do take your point though. Your sentiment is accurate.
Still waiting for Jtune, huh?
Christmas soon anyway!
Anyone received an invoice or any info after placing the pre-order?? I got nothing at this stage, not sure whats happening..
James is on holidays for a week at the moment.
He posted up some pictures of the headers being manufactured and some minor information yesterday
Nothing further though
Well that's the thing with manufacturing overseas. The variable lies with the manufacturer and also their quality control.
Funny bunny Zdster, is that your girlfriend?
Not sure why manufacturing would hold up the reflashes???
I am glad you were finally able to fix your grammar as your other post made no sense . . . but whatever.
I wouldnt imagine that they would start doing reflashes until stock came in :confused:. As yfin said I would be looking at least into 2008 for delivery.
They dont need stock/parts for the reflash. Thats the point im making. They can clear a percentage of their customers off their backlog immediately.
I guess he wants to release it all at the same time
hmmm... you order now to get the cheaper price, but you dont need to pay.... what if you still dont pay when they invoice you cause the product is still not available yet and only when its available you pay.
Can you change your mind later and dont pay??? as you havent got anything yet other then the invoice (if there is one)
Now while we don't have the full picture, it still seems IMHO they some problems with dealing with customers i.e. it appears as though
1) They won't supply any reflashes yet (labour only we would assume)
2) They don't have any stock of parts
3) 2006 and later reflashes aren't "available" either
Now how does this help Jtune if no money is coming in ? Beats me ...
Moreover only serves to piss off people who have been waiting for how long now ?
If you read the news page on the JTune website you will find the 2006 to 2008 automatic flash has been completed some time ago, I’m sure the manual is not far behind.
I can’t see what the issue is here I’ve placed a JTune mild flash order for my girlfriend Euro, we have placed the order, iv saved money, and I don’t have to pay until I’m invoiced, the money is better in my pocket for longer than anyone else.
It also states very clearly on the JTune website that all orders will ship 6 to 10 weeks from the closure of the pre order, considering the pre order only closed 2 weeks ago or so I’m still expecting an 8 week or so wait. I’ve saved money by placing a pre order, and its cost me nothing other than to wait like everyone else, it’s a win win situation for me.
If not getting a product you want for 10 weeks constitutes a "win win" for you then you need to raise your expectations a little. ;)
I agree they have not taken my money and i am happy to wait. Be nice to have some up to date info each week on whats going on though.
The issue is pretty simple. The products release date has been pushed off many times. There doesnt appear to be any non-test cars that have run the system/provided any feedback. Getting the physical 'products' from asia in 8 weeks seems dubious (think about production time, internal shipping overseas, shipping from overseas to Australia, customs, quality control, internal shipping within Australia).
It is not so much about the money and the fact that it hasnt been withdrawn from your account but more so about the above issues.
It’s only been two weeks since the closure of the group buy, I doubt much has changed for them, plus they did release manufacturing pictures of their headers a few days ago which look amazing id call that a update, in fact looking at the headers pictures makes me want to buy them as a present for my girlfriend. I knew what I committed to when I placed my order a 6 to 10 weeks wait, I saved money I’m not complaining Period.
I can see you are not complaining, but you said on the page back you couldnt see what the problem is/was. People are skeptics (and rightfully so IMO) that the product release date will be met considering prior evidence and that it is fast approaching the release date. As I said on the previous page, getting the products here before the wharfs/industries shut down for Christmas is one heck of an ask.
The other point that could be made is that you arnt really saving money if the product doesnt show up or you are tied to the product because you paid a deposit etc.
Exactly
had the pre order said something along the lines of not paying now, pay when the product arrives (which is how it should be), i would have jumped in too..
however without any tangible parts and the past experience (the waiting)..i found it hard to go that last step to commit to the reflash..i was under impression that the pre order required me to pay cash up front.
plus as others have said, an instant cash injection (for hondatech) of reflashing, rather than waiting 6 weeks would have been an ideal for people like myself who already have most of the other parts already..
:o:o
Well, sure glad I got my order in early coz I'm booked in for the 24th Nov, for installation.
Apparently the first samples are thru..........:thumbsup:
Yeh baby!.......:p
Hi Guys,
Just a quick heads up...;)
Sat 17th Nov - we'll be having a J-Tune demo day at our workshop for Sydney customers.
This way you will be able o see for yourself 1st hand, just what all the fuss is about.
We'll also be putting on a BBQ lunch & drinks for $5 per person.
Will post more info soon... :thumbsup:
Please email celia@todaracing.com.au if you'll be attending so she can get an idea of numbers
Cheers
Adrian
Also the Jtune stuff is being fitted up to my car tomorrow. There will be a show day in Melbourne probably next weekend to show the product when I have more details I will let you all know.
I think maybe JTUNE wanted us to think we needed to pay up front so they don't get people signing up then saying in 8 weeks, nah, don't want it now as I've got no cash and JTUNE being stuck with the parts.
However in saying that a sales contract could easily get around it and potentially have got many more early clients.
That's exactly what they could have done to avoid any unnecessary confusion and then having people bad mouth them, the same ones who has no clue about the trouble it takes to release a fully marketable, trustworthy product. In hindsight, J-Tune probably (?) did the right thing delaying the FINAL RELEASE OF INFORMATION, THE WEBSITE AND THEIR PRODUCTS for years. Seems like they spent a lot of effort to ensure production quality and also established a network of distribution dealers who could demonstrate the product all at once, etc.
Really hope to hear feedbacks from those who made a substantial saving by having faith and also will be the first batch of people to test this product ! :D:D:D
Haha. Yep that's right exactly as I expected from AARONNG. Having double standards are we in editing out my reply post, when other 'provocative' and childish 'English Class' posts by Zsted aren't deleted or edited.
Not sure if I should be impressed or unimpressed by the Max Morley equivalent of Ozhonda.
Here we go peoples if you want to see for yourself
http://www.jtune.com.au/news.html Viewing day for the Eastern States.
aww, 24th Sept. That's my son's 3rd bday party, damn.
That is exactly the problem. I dont think most consumers would have had a problem had the company kept stating that the release date was X weeks away. Had they instead said "the product will soon come to the marketplace, please be patient, here are some of the technical difficulties we are facing" then there would be no issue. What has happened is that a release date of 3 weeks was promised, that rolled past with no information provided, then another release date of a 4 weeks was promised and the pattern continued.
Anyway, that is all in the past and I hope that the company can provide a good reliable product.
He prolly got so excited and wrapped it around a tree. *jokes*
Carn peekay, don't leave us hanging.
Mind you, he's prolly already used to the mods since he's 1 of the main testers.
Carn... thats so aussie, cant get anymore aussie then that.
Who here is going to the Jtune demo day at Toda(Wetherill Park Sydney)on the 17th of November?Have you put your name down?I have.
I'll be there :)
Put my name down also, looking forward to it
anyone going to the brissie one, thinking about going
holy crap!Quote:
1:30pm Test drive of the mild flash upgrade in your own vehicle
Limited 5 minute test drive, priority given to those who emailed / reserved a place in order of emails received.
hmmm, maybe i will be getting my mate to head down there!!!
I'll be there too :D