Power Of the Dseries Turbo!! - can you handel it?! - Check it out!

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Originally Posted by fatboyz39

Yes at the end of the day D16T will kill b16a in EG/EK/EM1 shell. Dunno about a b16a in a gen 2 CRX.

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gen 2 crx doesn't weigh that much less then a eg civic does it??

My semi weight reduced gen 3 (still has interior so its not crazy weight reduced yet) weighs less then a few crx's i met at a recent cruise.

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Originally Posted by JasonGilholme

We still need to remember that at the end of the day we are comparing an NA 1.6 to a TURBO 1.6.

I'd expect the Turbo to win easily. but so far its not totally dominating as you'd expect.

Its just like comparing the B16 with the SR20. the 2 litre SHOULD smash the 1.6 but it doesn't.

my thoughts:

b16 = great NA engine fighting, and winning, in heavier weight divisions.
D16T = lots of torque, plenty of potential. I just need to see it happen. :thumbsup:

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nah mate at the end of the day this thred is about the potential of Turbo Dseries engines...

2ndly on a side note we are compareing a Turbo D16 Vs a Stock B16A
.... Not Turbo 1.6 vs N/a 1.6

3rdly i dont think a b16 in a civic (stock) would beat a sr20det powered s13... it would give up a good fight though... yes its a 1.6 vs 2l but its a 1.6 in light car vs 2l in a heavier car...


b16 = great NA engine fighting, and winning, in heavier weight divisions.
Agreed great engine PLATFORM(Y) in heavier weight divisions? explain

D16T = lots of torque, plenty of potential. I just need to see it

Agreed ... go to page 1 or page 16...

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Originally Posted by fatboyz39

I have driven a D series single cam vtec with a "bolt -on kit" and it'll just keep up to a dead stock type R rolling run(80km/hr). Off the mark, the Turbo D has no chance.

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http://weq.hondatech.com.au/turbo/Vid/

Type-r at 8psi.
s2000 at 11psi.

A friend of mine. Both to speed limits. Not even 3rd gear where the turbod becomes a monster. Over 4years ago now. Nothings changed but.

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Originally Posted by Sexc86

nah mate at the end of the day this thred is about the potential of Turbo Dseries engines...

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yes, and in order to prove its potential you need to compare. Don't make me qoute my jewish statement from earlier lol

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Originally Posted by Sexc86

2ndly on a side note we are compareing a Turbo D16 Vs a Stock B16A
.... Not Turbo 1.6 vs N/a 1.6

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WTF!!! Yes we are. lol

Turbo 1.6 = the d series engine + turbo
NA1.6 = the b series engine standard

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Originally Posted by Sexc86

3rdly i dont think a b16 in a civic (stock) would beat a sr20det powered s13... it would give up a good fight though... yes its a 1.6 vs 2l but its a 1.6 in light car vs 2l in a heavier car...

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b16 equiped car vs a SSS pulsar with a SR20DE not DET

Using your example tho. it must be annoying to have a 2 litre turbo and have an NA 1.6 hot up your ass...

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Originally Posted by Sexc86

Agreed ... go to page 1 or page 16...

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I need to see it in aus. If its got all this potential, bring it to the table.

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Originally Posted by Weq

http://weq.hondatech.com.au/turbo/Vid/

Type-r at 8psi.
s2000 at 11psi.

A friend of mine. Both to speed limits. Not even 3rd gear where the turbod becomes a monster. Over 4years ago now. Nothings changed but.

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wholey shit man respect!

ok can i address something getting back to the original statement that you can turbo a D-series engine for the same price as you could convert to a B-series engine and get better results.

Did you consider that after you swap out your D-series you have still got all that D-series gear to sell and the money gained from that could buy modds for the B-series engine thus comparing the B-series in totally stock trim would not be fair.

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Originally Posted by ek4-guy

ok can i address something getting back to the original statement that you can turbo a D-series engine for the same price as you could convert to a B-series engine and get better results.

Did you consider that after you swap out your D-series you have still got all that D-series gear to sell and the money gained from that could buy modds for the B-series engine thus comparing the B-series in totally stock trim would not be fair.

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how much could you sell, lets say a1.5 single cam no vtec, motor for? not much i reckon.
lol

man can you seriously not see the point i have made here...


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Originally Posted by Sexc86
2ndly on a side note we are compareing a Turbo D16 Vs a Stock B16A
.... Not Turbo 1.6 vs N/a 1.6


WTF!!! Yes we are. lol

Turbo 1.6 = the d series engine + turbo
NA1.6 = the b series engine standard

Dyno figures don't mean shit....... MPH shows the power of the motor.

B16 = NA 1.6 and you want to compare it to a Turbo'd 1.6 litre motor. Where have i gone wrong??

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Originally Posted by ek4-guy

Did you consider that after you swap out your D-series you have still got all that D-series gear to sell and the money gained from that could buy modds for the B-series engine thus comparing the B-series in totally stock trim would not be fair.

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fair enough good point but really any dseries you be lucky getting over $500 for ... + it wont just majically turn into $50 bills as soon as you unbolt it..
also the time you loose dealing with selling it is actually lost money as time is money....

still its not a bad point you may get a bit of pocket money back once your take it out

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Originally Posted by JasonGilholme

gen 2 crx doesn't weigh that much less then a eg civic does it??

My semi weight reduced gen 3 (still has interior so its not crazy weight reduced yet) weighs less then a few crx's i met at a recent cruise.

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gen 2 crx weigh alot less then EG's. i'd say around 80-120 kg less.