Power Of the Dseries Turbo!! - can you handel it?! - Check it out!

[JasonGilholme]

Yes at the end of the day D16T will kill b16a in EG/EK/EM1 shell. Dunno about a b16a in a gen 2 CRX.

gen 2 crx doesn't weigh that much less then a eg civic does it??

My semi weight reduced gen 3 (still has interior so its not crazy weight reduced yet) weighs less then a few crx's i met at a recent cruise.

[Sexc86]

We still need to remember that at the end of the day we are comparing an NA 1.6 to a TURBO 1.6.

I'd expect the Turbo to win easily. but so far its not totally dominating as you'd expect.

Its just like comparing the B16 with the SR20. the 2 litre SHOULD smash the 1.6 but it doesn't.

my thoughts:

b16 = great NA engine fighting, and winning, in heavier weight divisions.
D16T = lots of torque, plenty of potential. I just need to see it happen.

nah mate at the end of the day this thred is about the potential of Turbo Dseries engines...

2ndly on a side note we are compareing a Turbo D16 Vs a Stock B16A
.... Not Turbo 1.6 vs N/a 1.6

3rdly i dont think a b16 in a civic (stock) would beat a sr20det powered s13... it would give up a good fight though... yes its a 1.6 vs 2l but its a 1.6 in light car vs 2l in a heavier car...


b16 = great NA engine fighting, and winning, in heavier weight divisions.
Agreed great engine PLATFORM(Y) in heavier weight divisions? explain

D16T = lots of torque, plenty of potential. I just need to see it

Agreed ... go to page 1 or page 16...

[Weq]

I have driven a D series single cam vtec with a "bolt -on kit" and it'll just keep up to a dead stock type R rolling run(80km/hr). Off the mark, the Turbo D has no chance.

http://weq.hondatech.com.au/turbo/Vid/

Type-r at 8psi.
s2000 at 11psi.

A friend of mine. Both to speed limits. Not even 3rd gear where the turbod becomes a monster. Over 4years ago now. Nothings changed but.

[JasonGilholme]

nah mate at the end of the day this thred is about the potential of Turbo Dseries engines...

yes, and in order to prove its potential you need to compare. Don't make me qoute my jewish statement from earlier lol

2ndly on a side note we are compareing a Turbo D16 Vs a Stock B16A
.... Not Turbo 1.6 vs N/a 1.6

WTF!!! Yes we are. lol

Turbo 1.6 = the d series engine + turbo
NA1.6 = the b series engine standard

3rdly i dont think a b16 in a civic (stock) would beat a sr20det powered s13... it would give up a good fight though... yes its a 1.6 vs 2l but its a 1.6 in light car vs 2l in a heavier car...

b16 equiped car vs a SSS pulsar with a SR20DE not DET

Using your example tho. it must be annoying to have a 2 litre turbo and have an NA 1.6 hot up your ass...

Agreed ... go to page 1 or page 16...

I need to see it in aus. If its got all this potential, bring it to the table.

[Sexc86]

http://weq.hondatech.com.au/turbo/Vid/

Type-r at 8psi.
s2000 at 11psi.

A friend of mine. Both to speed limits. Not even 3rd gear where the turbod becomes a monster. Over 4years ago now. Nothings changed but.

wholey shit man respect!

[ek4-guy]

ok can i address something getting back to the original statement that you can turbo a D-series engine for the same price as you could convert to a B-series engine and get better results.

Did you consider that after you swap out your D-series you have still got all that D-series gear to sell and the money gained from that could buy modds for the B-series engine thus comparing the B-series in totally stock trim would not be fair.

[destrukshn]

ok can i address something getting back to the original statement that you can turbo a D-series engine for the same price as you could convert to a B-series engine and get better results.

Did you consider that after you swap out your D-series you have still got all that D-series gear to sell and the money gained from that could buy modds for the B-series engine thus comparing the B-series in totally stock trim would not be fair.

how much could you sell, lets say a1.5 single cam no vtec, motor for? not much i reckon.
lol

[Sexc86]

man can you seriously not see the point i have made here...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexc86
2ndly on a side note we are compareing a Turbo D16 Vs a Stock B16A
.... Not Turbo 1.6 vs N/a 1.6


WTF!!! Yes we are. lol

Turbo 1.6 = the d series engine + turbo
NA1.6 = the b series engine standard

[fatboyz39]

Dyno figures don't mean shit....... MPH shows the power of the motor.

[JasonGilholme]

B16 = NA 1.6 and you want to compare it to a Turbo'd 1.6 litre motor. Where have i gone wrong??

[Sexc86]

Did you consider that after you swap out your D-series you have still got all that D-series gear to sell and the money gained from that could buy modds for the B-series engine thus comparing the B-series in totally stock trim would not be fair.

fair enough good point but really any dseries you be lucky getting over $500 for ... + it wont just majically turn into $50 bills as soon as you unbolt it..
also the time you loose dealing with selling it is actually lost money as time is money....

still its not a bad point you may get a bit of pocket money back once your take it out

[fatboyz39]

gen 2 crx doesn't weigh that much less then a eg civic does it??

My semi weight reduced gen 3 (still has interior so its not crazy weight reduced yet) weighs less then a few crx's i met at a recent cruise.

gen 2 crx weigh alot less then EG's. i'd say around 80-120 kg less.